From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 2 7: 2:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [209.54.108.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE02155D1 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmeola@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com) Received: from egate-ut3.uswc.uswest.com (egate-ut3.uswc.uswest.com [148.157.122.201]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19924 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from smokey.uswc.uswest.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egate-ut3.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26343 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com [151.116.151.207]) by smokey.uswc.uswest.com (8.6.11/uswc-hub.950320) with ESMTP id IAA23021 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:01:26 -0600 Received: from ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.8+Sun/uswc-server.950313) with ESMTP id IAA28368 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:01:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 3/22/99 From: Matt Meola To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why? (Was: Re: FreeBSD, the follower of Linux ?) In-Reply-To: <19990901171256.C18814@futuresouth.com> References: <19990901171256.C18814@futuresouth.com> X-URL: http://www.qsl.net/kc0dxw Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 08:01:24 -0600 Message-ID: <28366.936280884@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:12:56 -0500 "Matthew D. Fuller" said: > Aristotle did this to forward a personal agenda and complete the burial > of the Sophists. !! > However, we stray from the necessary flameage, so for the sake of > completeness, 'Your mother was a hamster...' '...And your father smelt of elderberries!' I love that movie... BTW, I tend to agree with Jay Nelson, in his original post. Rabid evangelism of FreeBSD is ultimately harmful, from my view. FreeBSD is a rock, and while Linux is solid also, FreeBSD is better. Better with upgrades (not only cvsup, but ctm, too), better with ports and packages, and, for one, *very* much better with support. Linux is good. I like Linux. But I like FreeBSD better. Moreover, FreeBSD's quality is reflected in the quality of its support -- these mailing lists, perhaps with the exception of -chat, are far and away better than usenet for support. No flames, just the facts. -questions is by far a better resource than all of Usenet combined. This quality, both in code and in support, comes from the quality of character of the people involved. To specifically target the masses for wholescale conversion to FreeBSD is to degrade the overall quality of the userbase. To do so, one ought to also distribute flame-retardant clothing. Now, we surely don't want to push people away; I do not mean to advocate a position of elitism. However, I can confidantly recommend FreeBSD for use, fully evangelizing not only its qualities, but also the qualities of the user community. To invite someone to use FreeBSD is to invite them into our family, to invite them into an environment where they will "grow", both technically and emotionally, to grow into their own role as, someday, a mentor. Linux suffers from the tyranny of the majority -- it is seen as a solid product foisted upon the world by a bunch of arrogant, pimple-faced kids. Let's just make FreeBSD what it can be, and let it sell itself. -- Matt Meola Bailey, Colorado Amateur Radio Operator - KC0DXW http://www.qsl.net/kc0dxw ARES District Six AEC NRA Life Member "Gun control means using two hands." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message