From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 21:28:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E416106564A for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp4.clear.net.nz (smtp4.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354108FC0C for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from zmori.markir.net (121-73-166-197.dsl.telstraclear.net [121.73.166.197]) by smtp4.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTP id <0KBV00FDRXL6WO10@smtp4.clear.net.nz> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:12:44 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:12:40 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <33958.1216244510@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Message-id: <494576C8.3020501@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20080716213115.C747F7BC45@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> <33958.1216244510@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081109) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:50:15 +0000 Cc: Miod Vallat , rms@gnu.org, misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, licensing@fsf.org, fedora-list@redhat.com, announce@fsfeurope.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, Morton Harrow , claire.newman@canonical.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL version 4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:28:11 -0000 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:31:15 +0800, Morton Harrow said: > > >> I see with pain in my heart that the GPLv3 doesn't actually give the >> users of GPLv3 software the liberty and freedom the FSF has been >> fighting for. Instead they are forced to play by the strict set of >> terms the GPLv3 provides. >> > > You missed an important philosophical point. In Richard Stallman's world view, > it isn't the user's freedoms that matter, it's the *software*s freedom. > > I don't think it is that bad - the intent is for the software to be freely available for *people* to use. It is actually about our freedom. regards Mark