From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 7 07:28:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48ADE106566C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2608FC0C for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1227486ywh.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:28:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=qlgthc2tGReIbIEDDD/w8zxqzP4CdEn0emvdXi9HzPA=; b=KPe1OOEueJOG2lRZuOEFR0RGdWN65MTStG20C2cs2pSndOWmeW5IlZ90GfJbXn2a5I g7lZEy+l3gCPsJ9ZlSXHxog7hx1RuKKBvFfsy4pzRQCs0scK9h3Wmy19URG69X6WMPWS KidZ3WmaVichaIr1Gtl+z89oq7+ulrKLdsKr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=l9KA+V1PPF8uSB42OynIRVef/G0CV9ZFVcBVrQSFlpnG2lEjEcgI7/pXhLKm02xaIq 19LTYSIpEOoGxRRIpw3jFI/AG2j2INTU5pz6tK6o/GWVKYNoqYURILIbE81w9jifhAd2 1KdDXspi0Tm/TfjQHL79liKLQzDpVGeTNqVw0= Received: by 10.91.49.17 with SMTP id b17mr527580agk.69.1267946896572; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.98.98.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.98.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm3274818iwn.8.2010.03.06.23.28.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:28:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:29:57 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100307072957.GA8366@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , freebsd Mailing References: <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20100307043004.GA3528@gmail.com> <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100307061025.a6d1c0de.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Updating ports was Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 07:28:18 -0000 Hi Polytropon, Firstly, thanks for your suggestion. * Polytropon (freebsd@edvax.de) wrote: > You can consider using "pkgadd -r" to install binary packages. > Those are quite synchon with the ports tree (as they are > centrally built from the ports tree). I checked /var/db/pkg; I have 464 ports installed on my system (including X). I would probably not do so. > What about using freebsd-update? It delivers patches in binary > form for the OS, so you don't need to make world and kernel, > and if you're following the 8.x-RELEASE-p track, you don't > have to recompile your whole software ports - as it has been > mentioned, this is only needed if you update the major version > number (e. g. 7.2 -> 8.0). Once I used binary upgrade from 6.2 -> 6.3. The source tree was still 6.2 while the system was 6.3. I know there are no problems with the system. But it is *untidy*, I don't want to. > > I upgrade ALL FREQUENT used ports and ALL related libraries required by them. > > Programs like portmaster can be really helpful here. Yes, it is what I am expecting. Thank you. I read the handbook. There are 2 choices i.e. portmanager and portmaster. I am now thinking which one is better. I must also check time and disk space required to build all these ports. > Oh yes, the joy if you want to have a german OpenOffice version, > where you could run "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" in the past... :-) > I know what you mean, I try to avoid compile orgies whenever > possible, at least on my home system. On servers which usually > don't have GUI stuff, but services that need updates often due > to security considerations, it's not a big deal.) I have nothing to do with Office suite. I might probably not do so, thanks. > The ISO images are tied to a specific OS version, and they can > be used with it without problems. You can run into trouble when > upgrading the OS, and then try to install software from a CD > that expects another OS version. I have never installed any softwares from CD/DVD. I install from CD only when I want to wipe out everything. And install a new fresh system. > Using "pkg_add -r" offers the same comfortability as installing > software from local CD or DVD, but it's usually "up to date" and > "fits better" to the ports tree - which is useful when you > install software both from source and from binaries. If I choose between packages and ports, I opt ports. As previously mentioned ``portmaster'' or ``portmanager'' should be helpful. Please give some comments, which one is better. I read from handbook; but I have never used it. I don't know so much in this area. It is system specific and not part of the standard (POSIX or SUS). Note: I'm just a hobbyist not pro. :-) Thanks, Pongthep