From owner-svn-src-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 27 21:43:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5137EF3B; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 21:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DB98FC0A; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 21:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id ei8so4622367wgb.20 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:43:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yMvDWNQtodhZfjgGOyY1edTFwe1Nrm89s4lRmB8KZEs=; b=Kq9bHVjpEDSS2SbcQJYIVCOJY6nV1MkyCMhWjfuFPtZAk1mpwGw86f2Ru/akcXnMtY EmkMG3Tn016hREJxWbUZE98y2i/iWYlcctTz8P3lOw8Qf6qYy4zFk6mx+/5yHnMZf0KJ tkWIJJsX+4eBaXI14bVnIqZwhGQDB60EN50zwOTQmmxKuOgrkyZT0cR2wJ3JxqomxfcY 32XcUcKEicrNeBzexdxNp3AKJrqb+i9xWXMrJaJJvZTatAH5/GOQipzPbLbPcRLwDPe9 aLwf13HTR/z1YGv4tRUAGbHl0jJYIj9xBQXW4b/4ti0vTWNzMfiZjw3hXIf1LkXD7TkH E9EQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.93.40 with SMTP id cr8mr51131967wjb.16.1356644289074; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:38:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.57.9 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:38:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201212241422.qBOEMrcF021632@svn.freebsd.org> <50D8B533.8080507@mu.org> <20121225104422.GB53644@kib.kiev.ua> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:38:09 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: D1e-lmgVjpW2V1T8JsNJusRzey0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r244663 - stable/9 From: Adrian Chadd To: Robert Watson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Alfred Perlstein , svn-src-stable-9@freebsd.org, Konstantin Belousov X-BeenThere: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for all the -stable branches of the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 21:43:22 -0000 It's an interesting discussion to have (after the new year, of course.) I understand that we sometimes have to change ABIs because we can't fix problems otherwise. However, I don't recall seeing much/any discussion about this. If it appeared on a list that I didn't spot then cool. But any kind of ABI change in a stable branch deserves a little more discussion before its done. The reason ath(4) 802.11n support isn't in -9 is because of the ABI changes I'd have to do to net80211 (at least) before I could put it in, and I want to make sure all of my changes are in place before I do (hopefully one, maybe two) large-scale changes. Adrian