From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 20:44:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05035106566B; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13FA8FC14; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A777041C7A3; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:25:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TnnRoydYJpzd; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:25:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 3E18441C799; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:25:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2568E44487F; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:23:36 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Poul-Henning Kamp In-Reply-To: <5293.1205780363@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20080317202023.X50685@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <5293.1205780363@critter.freebsd.dk> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, John Baldwin Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/cpufreq est.c X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:44:17 -0000 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <200803171317.15812.jhb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin writes: >> On Monday 17 March 2008 12:53:46 pm Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> >>>> You have servers that default to half-speed when not on battery? That is >> very >>>> odd, but you can just run powerd [...] >>> >>> Yes, but you need to know that you should run powerd in the first place. >> >> Err, I would just always run it. You are now saying that laptops have to run >> powerd to avoid full-speed CPUs on boot (even though the BIOS throttles it >> down for you) but you can't run powerd on the server? > > We don't enable powerd by default, as Robert said, maybe we should. in the past I had machines that after enabling powerd brought the machine down needing a full power cycle to restore. this had always been machines in production unfornately where pople had forgotten to do so during install and thus almost impossible to debug. I am fine with having this on by default for "install" (whatever that means) but changing that policy with a system update mergemastering might not be a good idea. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT Software is harder than hardware so better get it right the first time.