From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 4 06:23:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604465E2 for ; Sat, 4 May 2013 06:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x230.google.com (mail-ia0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328ED1659 for ; Sat, 4 May 2013 06:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f176.google.com with SMTP id l27so1902686iae.7 for ; Fri, 03 May 2013 23:23:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AwB7YC6bO6v53hRGRTfJZAYdv4w5Veg7AvMYzcANbBU=; b=GhkV3hygq8r/PFkApP6sugyUrQX4+SE4QQSU4+Ua2B6CnuA8pQQPLLGbuWF5+frQYH mt+pQOlkVTcue5gt6M9YCTP9OaswCZyK6tznjw/WWhUNsZZQ40WRhv16JFRmS5p1FJpF lrHKPIxxz/M+HJYHz/XI7XP2yHdHsHZsD13ORrjnI7F272ZtyVAf+Go65p9Y+9zijj28 NfJyilbYXhXzwjrrD+wlGaN01TZ55aanl1Saz7rRUpRBziwaUcTiIVlDLCrbB7akXodH kYFxORvtVHZPIuY9imslxIjOgal3PfLvDYSGwM6TGiqxyX2KAayQSrBKj7ZkuHY9jGWY lmGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.47.10 with SMTP id z10mr354825igm.15.1367648598857; Fri, 03 May 2013 23:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.58.52 with HTTP; Fri, 3 May 2013 23:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.58.52 with HTTP; Fri, 3 May 2013 23:23:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 07:23:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ladmins that cannot type a command From: Chris Rees To: Dieter BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 06:23:19 -0000 On 3 May 2013 20:01, "Dieter BSD" wrote: > > >> good for today and future ladmins that cannot type a command. > >> > >> Any USEFUL proposals that add some real functionality? > > > > Since this will enable more people to run FreeBSD that otherwise > > wouldn't give it a second glance, I would say it is VERY useful. > > Really? How useful is FreeBSD going to be to someone who cannot type? > Who is the target here? Idiots? People without fingers? > > I see lots of chatter about adding new stuff, much of which is ... > rather questionable. Meanwhile many of the features FreeBSD > already has are broken. No shortage of PRs that need fixing. > Many of these PRs have been sitting around, unloved, for *years*. > Some of them even contain patches (that *work*)! > > If you're building a race car, make sure the engine runs before > spending your time polishing the wheels. You need to spend more time writing patches rather than telling other people what not to do. We're (nearly) all volunteers. If you think something needs fixing, you can have a go yourself or pay someone, but do NOT tell someone that their contribution is not worthwhile while pushing your agenda. Chris