From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 11 14:36:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [216.240.39.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28EA314EBC for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:36:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 2198 invoked by uid 100); 11 Nov 1999 22:36:14 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14379.17630.340446.163663@guru.phone.net> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:36:14 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig finding libraries, but ld is not. In-Reply-To: <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> References: <14378.28246.28493.440833@guru.phone.net> <199911112213.RAA34417@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 3) "Acadia" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin writes: ;->On 11-Nov-99 Mike Meyer wrote: ;->> I still curse at regular intervals at the ports/packages collection ;->> installing things in /usr/local. That means I need another place for ;->> things that I maintain, instead of came with FreeBSD. Putting ;->> everything in /usr is one such solution. /opt is another (but having ;->> everything have it's own hierarchy pretty much sucks). ;->Try maintaining a lab of 40-80 identical machines. Then imagine ;->distributing /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 via NFS. Then you only have to ;->install the package on one machine to install it everywhere. That ;->doesn't work when installed under /usr. Are you enlightened yet? Yes, but not about what you hoped. Back when I did that kind of thing, I did a better job than that. Let's see - off the top of my head, I've network mounted /usr (the Linux solution to this problem), /opt (the Solaris solution), and used rdist, rsync and perforce to do the distribution. The bottom line is that taking the name people have standardized on for installing *local* packages and installing system-provided packages there is a bad thing(TM). None of the solutions I used suffered from that flaw.