From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 21:53:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C127106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D782D8FC1D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4AA1CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:53:31 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:53:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <14d5bc5907865a291f91883030ae1409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14d5bc5907865a291f91883030ae1409@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803162253.29286.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Joshua Isom Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:32 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 22:29:29 Joshua Isom wrote: > On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday =D9=A1=D9=A6 March =D9=A2=D9=A0=D9=A0=D9=A8 =D9=A2=D9=A1:=D9= =A0=D9=A3:=D9=A2=D9=A7 Incoming Mail List wrote: > >> I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, > >> the "Where is packages-=D9=A6.=D9=A2-release" for more context. You k= now, disk > >> space isn't infinite...uh-huh. > > > > Easy to bitch, ain't it? > > Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. > > > > I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that =D9= =A8=D9=A0% > > of > > what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the > > bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's > > a > > proper use of resources. > > Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a > version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso > that contains just enough to install? Unless there's DVD drives out there that can't mount cd's (which would=20 surprise me since DVD's use iso9660 file system), there's no reason to make= a=20 700MB dvd image. > Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install > FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the > source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to > follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree, > and good to go. Cause a gzipped ports tree requires less resources then a csup'd one, for o= ne=20 and because you may want to get the gateway you're building on site to have= =20 some decent firewall rules before going up the big scary net. Install disks have their use and binary installs are faster all around, but= =20 there's limits to convenience and having all binary packages on disk, most = of=20 which are obsolete within weeks, majority of which you'll never use (17k+=20 ports atm) certainly is one of them. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part.