From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 6 17:33:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE82415A60 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:33:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01649; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:29:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:29:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Taylor To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux install In-Reply-To: <19990906224653.B18294@lithium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Ben Smithurst wrote: > They probably put emacs and all their bloated crappy window manglers > in /bin or something. Little niggling things as well, like needing > three CDs for a "base" system, when you can get a FreeBSD base system > from just CD1. One of the previous machines I admin'ed was, for about 2 days while I was in charge of it, a RedHat box (it'd been cracked and I was asked to come in and clean things up - so I put FreeBSD on it). Anyway, one of the things I noticed was that almost _all_ software binaries (X and console both) got installed in /usr/bin. I'm not joking at all - there were maybe 50 things in /usr/X11R6/bin and maybe another 50 in /usr/local/bin. Everything else was buried in /usr/bin (ls | wc -w gave me about 2500 or so in /usr/bin). Cripes. Why is anyone's guess, but I had no clue as to why but only a few of the X apps (and I think these were typically xbiff, xterm - base X stuff) were installed in /usr/X11R6/bin less yet all of the stuff that, IMO, should have been in /usr/local/bin. I was plenty happy to move that machine to FreeBSD and it's been happy ever since (and the box is still running along fine!). BTW, it got hacked because the previous "admin" left all of the lovely default daemons running (like innd, httpd, etc). Funny that he didn't even bother to shut off innd and its brethen since all it did then was serve up email. Note I assume they were default because I figured the guy wouldn't try to start up a news server on a small dept machine. The version of Apache was 1.0 (hopelessly outdated even then) and they got in through the PHF bug which had been closed a long time previous to that. Brett ***************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message