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Date:      Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:23:28 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Bram Moolenaar <Bram@moolenaar.net>
Cc:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Avoiding upgrade to xorg 7.2
Message-ID:  <20070613212328.GA57218@rot13.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200706132123.l5DLN1hr010280@moolenaar.net>
References:  <20070613201010.GA1002@soaustin.net> <200706132123.l5DLN1hr010280@moolenaar.net>

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On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:23:01PM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> 
> Mark Linimon wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:08:30PM +0200, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > > A variable that means "stick to 6.9" would be very nice.  But I have a
> > > problem with the "(or whatever we called it)" bit.  Looking in the
> > > /usr/ports/Mk directory I can't find something that looks like
> > > PRE_XORG7.  So what is it called?
> > 
> > >From http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk:
> > 
> >   "CVS tags: PRE_XORG_7"
> > 
> > So, it's not a variable, it's a CVS tag.  You will need to revert your
> > entire ports tree to that date, if that's what you want to do.
> > 
> > The testing and integration of xorg7.2 strained our resources.  There
> > was no way we had enough time/people/resources to do the testing with
> > a switch that could be thrown either way.  Sorry.
> 
> Hey, I'm sure you work very hard to make it all work.  I appreciate that
> very much.
> 
> My problem is that for people who don't know exactly how the ports
> system works and don't keep track of messages in CVS logs or maillists
> it has become very difficult to use the ports system.  It's almost as if
> it's only for a small group of people who keep their secrets away from
> casual users.  I know this isn't so, but that's what it looks like from
> the outside.
> 
> My main complaint is that the dependencies are not working properly.  So
> I have xorg 6.9.  If I upgrade some port that works just fine with xorg
> 6.9 there should not be a dependency on xorg 7.2.  This is a generic
> problem with the ports system, it appears.

It's never been supported to mix and match random old versions of
ports with new ones.  This is a bug in your expectation of how ports
should work.

> Now I still don't know how to use or set a CVS tag for cvsup...

We have excellent documentation on this and other relevant topics.  I
suggest you take the opportunity to increase your knowledge.

Kris



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