From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 29 19:37:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA716106564A for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F11C8FC1D for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so542004bwz.13 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8LRXKRHVksBPNE1g3olOIAlsstI44AhrB99AX+6EOUQ=; b=VGdAZ1uAD3iuMmelhrAxPsMlE90h78Nik6lGUQtBfoRVR3ipFjgMXmoqEYwshNnwsx NLrXIRnApT+OL4wIK0loeMFQr59iiFQAn1LhxPUQ87npqvKh/ueoexkqNSnGXqvTVXVd 11t1UyS+M7WEVZae9lfZ5zUDzQ1AL+OL8USEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ta/m6pzucH2srjy7fkDB0h3rELcNmMGCyT9x/tGV6jAUucsdzEN8+U1a6LHfXbHbns vdWNoLw0o5vMCgS5v2miDk3FK7RkXbCR5uRlc6j8Rgs9tjdLguaG3znjhau+ABNX65qc MWE1HedPQmkOSOHaNQwon/1rVtCJnOCvYS1PA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.19.6 with SMTP id y6mr215700bka.159.1301427428085; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.118.200 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:37:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87B0CCF2B38381F29EE67BA4@utd71538.local> References: <20110329013223.ddca7453.jhsu802701@jasonhsu.com> <1301419646.71335.123.camel@xenon> <87B0CCF2B38381F29EE67BA4@utd71538.local> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:37:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Paul Schmehl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jason Hsu , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Michal Varga Subject: Re: Best way to switch from Linux to BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:37:09 -0000 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Go to Youtube and see if you can watch a video. Ubuntu does it out of the > box. FreeBSD only does it after you tweak and tweak and tweak and google > and google and google. Or just follow the instructions. If people really find that difficult I'm not sure any OS is going to be the answer long term. If you do enough computer use you'll have to follow instructions at some point. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html Java is a different matter. Handbook should be updated to use the iced tea plugin since the other java plugin doesn't work on new FF plus it's other deficiencies. Comparing Ubuntu and FreeBSD is a false choice and if you want a rough equivalent of ubuntu, use PCBSD. I don't agree with what you say is so hard, but there are options to take most of that overhead away. -- Adam Vande More