From owner-svn-doc-head@freebsd.org Fri Feb 5 17:33:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-doc-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77961A9C6F1 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 17:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-src@helfman.org) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4939F13D8 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 17:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-src@helfman.org) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 9so136506139iom.1 for ; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 09:33:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=helfman-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pQ119X5XMu+TVbKvBk59/qVdxFJhCkYCkzt851TskZs=; b=CI8qXhSNZjotZKWQhYKBdTfBAhJ1uO9lgDbX3yceGSz5EqUx8/8uGf2sqU2rBovEXH nCz/3ZyFzA9B3YAsGeyBaA5kt/61GcUFJknhyyo7MahNEM9m3YJpv1ef1xdESoJFURN6 c8tQzzW2+skFhogkMLZQcwqyeAy9L2lgVPfZBs8JzYLpJFrq/G1pjhQ2SbLXvdG2yVdc vyo4p2khEVyxvFHKKu/3Bn3ky2e3W6E+S+lJLPSSXtaMyc7NU48M68VT7nG5Altc3dd/ tNQVie+AXs837dtlo4wfBxZvGnyxFslXrHvDiHzkGhCXuPtCsRizsiUgdViGZeY7xHTo QZIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pQ119X5XMu+TVbKvBk59/qVdxFJhCkYCkzt851TskZs=; b=fzOeUz9iBUohnk8RREivREwxrEFVnf/dtY5/keEibbmE2PF3XGAz5xvaJJc5ht6XpC +9WXU/BjJCwdA2laU6qmM40rKLVJu25WxC3s2OzKXt1aKWX9qQSZSYbtCFOxVSU86XQp LSO+ESZHKRZFbH74ZuWopcEQtytqBKJnRjUeb2gL+uYWoed023l4AZi2UUtrUib+OUea ykEHse9RQHgzk5ATE+LPMgxlAA2AV/WqgSdB5e6QgkxUqGv3g0r48C7mipKZY2n+2HdC vyC54u9a3YECEE6YvJEYYVJPp30v0Hr1cMCDYp2WmYSzBpxdVC8o6j8pCXB8oxXe83IW 6Vww== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQA19bVfo3o4+HNfpMensXUcydvNMFcnQ1ezoxPgtPhnAL9w0E2CqXa5oq0QRS6PGV2mqpgVPalQwrB0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.136.200 with SMTP id s69mr15885194ioi.120.1454693592368; Fri, 05 Feb 2016 09:33:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: bsd-src@helfman.org Received: by 10.107.142.4 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 09:33:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <376A469D-74FC-4C14-B783-D80B2B34A552@FreeBSD.org> References: <201602040801.u1481r5j087645@repo.freebsd.org> <1D0251FC-4524-49F3-8B11-A76E787D1270@FreeBSD.org> <376A469D-74FC-4C14-B783-D80B2B34A552@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 09:33:12 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Sxq5-t1JQYEcIevqcRtl41yl1JI Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r48150 - head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd From: Jason Helfman To: Remko Lodder Cc: Eitan Adler , svn-doc-head@freebsd.org, svn-doc-all@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: svn-doc-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the doc tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 17:33:13 -0000 On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:29 AM, Remko Lodder wrote: > >> On 04 Feb 2016, at 17:00, Eitan Adler wrote: >> >> On 4 February 2016 at 02:35, Remko Lodder wrote: >>> >>>> On 04 Feb 2016, at 09:01, Eitan Adler wrote: >>>> >>>> Author: eadler >>>> Date: Thu Feb 4 08:01:53 2016 >>>> New Revision: 48150 >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/doc/48150 >>>> >>>> Log: >>>> Remove 15+ yr old reference to the world's busiest FTP server >>>> >>>> Modified: >>>> head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml >>>> >>>> Modified: head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml >>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>> --- head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml Thu Feb = 4 02:19:12 2016 (r48149) >>>> +++ head/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.xml Thu Feb = 4 08:01:53 2016 (r48150) >>>> @@ -31,14 +31,7 @@ >>>> >>>> In the open source world, the word Linux is = almost >>>> synonymous with Operating System, but it is not th= e only >>>> - open source &unix; operating system. According >>>> - to the Internet >>>> - Operating System Counter, as of April 1999 31.3% of the >>>> - world's network connected machines run Linux. 14.6% run BSD &un= ix;. >>>> - Some of the world's largest web operations, such as Yahoo!, run BSD. The world's >>>> - busiest FTP server of 1999 (now defunct), ftp.cdrom.com, used BSD to >>>> - transfer 1.4 TB of data a day. Clearly this is not a niche >>>> - market: BSD is a well-kept secret. >>>> + open source &unix; operating system. >>>> >>>> So what is the secret? Why is BSD not better known? This = white >>>> paper addresses these and other questions. >>> >>> Why remove this? It explains why BSD is used and more specifically it d= oes not jump from =E2=80=98not the only unix operating system=E2=80=99 to = =E2=80=98so what is the secret, why is bsd not better known=E2=80=99. >> >> A 15+ yr old reference that talks about transferring 1.4 TB of data a >> day is hardly impressive. It might be better to reference Netflix or >> Whatapp now. > > It does not go about =E2=80=98impressive=E2=80=99 or not but for historic= al reasons. We can _add_ netflix or whatsapp, but we just should not remove= this because you find it outdated. > While I understand the reasoning behind this, and appreciate the mentioning of what could be added, removing an old and potentially relevant entry without adding new content is perceived as an issue. Additionally, have you considered reaching out to our Yahoo! committers, or Yahoo!, to see if they would have any more current statistics so we may update the site (assuming it isn't a small amount, and is comparable to other service providers)? As I recall, this was an opening to listing other service providers that use BSD, and thought it was a nice transition. Regards, Jason --=20 Jason Helfman | FreeBSD Committer jgh@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh | The Power to Serve