From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:39:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0C6FC6; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B81F8FC0C; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Toshi.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24997; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:38:57 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <201212112038.NAA24997@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:38:55 -0700 To: Rainer Duffner , Mark Saad From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas? In-Reply-To: <20121211173234.260bf5b8@suse3> References: <201212090318.UAA11257@lariat.net> <50C4A341.9070903@FreeBSD.org> <201212092031.NAA17017@lariat.net> <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> <201212101735.KAA02736@lariat.net> <201212102352.QAA09737@lariat.net> <20121211140043.GB20011@in-addr.com> <20121211173234.260bf5b8@suse3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Adrian Chadd , stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:39:08 -0000 At 09:32 AM 12/11/2012, Rainer Duffner wrote: >For the future, I also suggest not to make a timeline or a public >schedule at all. Less communication rather than more? I would not be in favor of this. YMMV, but it seems to me that this is more the way of large, secretive corporations like Apple than it is of a collaborative open source project. And it is important to have targets. Transparency is vital. I do not mind justified schedule slippages, so long as I can track progress and plan appropriately. It is when I (and everyone else) are in the dark that things get difficult. --Brett Glass