From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 9 8: 0:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385344015 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15204; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:57:45 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000209084501.040ad6e0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:57:40 -0700 To: Neil Blakey-Milner From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: What Linus said about FreeBSD Cc: Greg Lehey , Jonathon McKitrick , chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000209120114.A31865@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <4.2.2.20000208182726.04122830@localhost> <4.2.2.20000208111617.045e2730@localhost> <4.2.2.20000207163850.00cf03c0@localhost> <20000209115700.H41453@freebie.lemis.com> <4.2.2.20000208182726.04122830@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:01 AM 2/9/2000 , Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: >I propose we have two Bretts then. The anti-GPL one who we can >flame for causing bad PR amongst the Linux (and other) people, and >the pro-BSD one who we can agree with, and who can provide us with >some good ideas and tactics to improve our PR through positive >means, not through negative (ie, attacking others) means. > >Chainsaw, anyone? Ouch! Suddenly, I have a splitting headache. ;-) Seriously, being pro-BSD and opposing the GPL go hand in hand. When one points out the problems of the GPL, one is not "attacking others;" rather, one is helping others by exposing a deceitful and malicious agenda. That's a VERY positive thing. Using or supporting the GPL, on the other hand, IS attacking others, since the GPL itself is intended to hurt people. One of the memetic strengths of the Linux community and its leaders is that they have not only things that they promote but things that they firmly oppose. Such causes draw people together. One thing I see in the BSD community which hobbles its effectiveness is that some people in it refuse to take a stand, even against something like the GPL which is clearly hurtful and malicious. Perhaps this is what Linus was really saying. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message