From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 17 19:46: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (merhaba.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B56314E96 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:46:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-1-62.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.42.71]) by merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24697; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3740D3B6.4D8323AD@confusion.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:43:02 -0400 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Szilveszter Cc: juksi@iname.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie tip References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Perhaps not an elegant way to do things, but... If you set a bios powerup password, then tell everyone that, they can just hit ctrl-alt-delete, which will do a shutdown -r even if you're not root, then have them turn it off when the bios password prompt comes up. Adam Szilveszter wrote: > > Hi! > > On Mon, 17 May 1999, Jukka Simila wrote: > > > > > On 17-May-99 Adam Szilveszter wrote: > > > [...] > > You don't even have to move the mouse, take two identical mouses and boot with > > another mouse installed, then switch it to the another, you have to reboot > > before win95 detects the new mouse. > :-)))))) Especially PS/2 mice behave that way... > > > > But: > > If you have a computer that can't be power-on for 24h / day, say, a computer > > used mainly for text-editing (that old 486 :), wouldn't it be nicer to give > > users a possibility to shut it down with their own password, rather than > > delivering root's password to everyone, or recommending microsoft-style > > shutdown "just switch the power off, it's all right then" :) > > Hmmmm. That's a different matter then. My computer is turned off every day > as well because my roommate cannot stand if it is running at night. But > I'm there so I always can turn it off. I have not thought the matter over, > obviously. from this perspective, your solution very much makes sense. > What I said is that one should be very careful in configuring packages to > be sudo but that said there are circumstances when it is necessary. The M$ > style shutdown idea is coooool, although some actually practice it in our > dorm as well and don't even know that it is bad... > > > > > "You cannot shut down the computer yourself, but just ask me and I will be > > there in a minute. Oh, I forgot, I won't be home until tomorrow.. Would you > > like to become a sysadmin?" :) > :-)))))) That's the result when I speak w/o thinking... yep. Obviously a > bug or config error inside my head. Has happened before as well. A fix, > anyone?:-))))) > > That aside, I was only considering single-user environments and LANs where > normal users cannot access the console anyway. That's because I was > drawing on my prevoius experience here at the dorm where only these > environments seem to occur:-) At home my family still uses Winsssssuxxx so > it is not a problem. Maybe I will bring in some change this summer...but > my machine was more urgent because it actually has Net access so I can > utilize FreeBSD's full potential. > > Regards: > Szilveszter > > Szeged University > Hungary > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message