From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Nov 6 11:10:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5F1C33069 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668901BC2 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 65E0DC33068; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65859C33067 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from nmsh1.e.nsc.no (nmsh1.e.nsc.no [193.213.121.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030031BC0; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 11:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from terraplane.org (ti0027a400-1368.bb.online.no [88.88.96.95]) by nmsh1.nsc.no (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id uA6B93Le022313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:09:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from terraplane.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id uA6B9Ukf024038; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:09:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: (from rumrunner@localhost) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.13.8/Submit) id uA6B9UBq024037; Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:09:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:09:30 +0100 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: Ronald Klop Cc: Eivind Nicolay Evensen , Baptiste Daroussin , Julian Elischer , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] remove GNU rcs from FreeBSD 12 Message-ID: <20161106110929.GA19203@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> References: <20160911133804.a7j7p3x2viqzcpec@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20161025182730.GA60030@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2016 11:10:39 -0000 On Sat, Nov 05, 2016 at 02:07:21PM +0100, Ronald Klop wrote: > On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:17:23 +0100, Julian Elischer > wrote: > > >On 26/10/2016 2:27 AM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > >>On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >>>hi, > >>> > >>>For long we are planning to remove GNU rcs from base, after a failed > >>>attempt > >>>before FreeBSD 10.0. Let see where we are to be able to remove it from > >>>FreeBSD > >>>12. > > > >why should we remove it? > >What will replace it? it's an integral part of many people's systems. > > Firefox/perl/java is also an integral part of many people's system. But it > is not in base. I see a big difference between these two First providing something people find useful enough that it affects their decision about whether or not to use a system, then stopping providing it. versus Not including any and all available software packages. I don't think I'm entirely along in that view. I also thought that perl was a good example of another piece of software that once was provided and no longer is. -- Eivind