From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 05:17:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4907316A4CE; Mon, 2 May 2005 05:17:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EB643D41; Mon, 2 May 2005 05:17:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E8017017; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:17:10 -0300 (BRT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br ([146.164.53.65]) by localhost (roma.coe.ufrj.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09909-08; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:17:07 -0300 (BRT) Received: from [200.164.156.123] (unknown [200.164.156.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F4517015; Mon, 2 May 2005 02:17:06 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <4275B7CA.9040701@jonny.eng.br> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 02:16:58 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Carlos_Mendes_Lu=EDs?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0+ (Windows/20050329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050501094429.06974910@64.7.153.2> <20050502044655.E78953@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20050502044655.E78953@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at coe.ufrj.br cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org cc: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 64bit CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 05:17:15 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > On Sun, 1 May 2005, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> A somewhat obvious question to some perhaps, but what server=20 >> application mix on FreeBSD today sees an improvement using 64bit CPUs = >> ? In my ISP centric world, my big apps are BIND, IMAP/POP3, httpd via= =20 >> apache, SMTP, AV and SPAM scanning, and firewalls/routing. Apart from= =20 >> larger RAM, why would these benefit from the 64bit world ? Or would=20 >> they ? >=20 > RAM/address space is the big reason. In fact, applications compiled fo= r=20 > 64-bits may well run slower than 32-bit ones running on the 64-bit=20 > kernel. Note that systems like Solaris default build many programs as=20 > 32-bit, since there's no benefit to running ls(1) with a 64-bit address= =20 > space. Should I understand from this that, in the long term, FreeBSD will=20 take the same path as Solaris, and have a dual (32bit/64bit) userland on = amd64 arch? Jonny --=20 Jo=E3o Carlos Mendes Lu=EDs - Networking Engineer - jonny@jonny.eng.br