From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 03:51:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA73329 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2EA8FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id PFoP1k0054XeM0101FoQUr; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:48:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:48:24 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Subject: Re: well, try here first... Message-ID: <20121114034823.GC16091@ethic.thought.org> References: <20121113052159.GA31404@ethic.thought.org> <20121113063952.5c9bfaa2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121113075721.GB3359@ethic.thought.org> <20121113151033.1d03bf13@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121113091255.070097f6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20121113190006.GC2570@ethic.thought.org> <20121114044748.7582a006@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121114010738.GA16091@ethic.thought.org> <20121114082600.48d0f681@X220.ovitrap.com> <20121114035814.572a5f7e.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121114035814.572a5f7e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Erich Dollansky , FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 03:51:02 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 03:58:14AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:26:00 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:07:38 -0800 > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:47:48AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > Playboy alles was Maennern Spass macht > > Ouch. > > Unlike in English, the comma in German is an important symbol > in grammar. It brings structure to sentences. In English, there > is the "word order" that achieves this goal, and a comma is > mostly optional or "left to preferences". In German, there are > rules where to place a comma, and where not to. Those rules > are relatively easy to understand, and luckily they do not > leave much space for individual preferences. :-) > > In the above example, > > Playboy, alles was Maennern Spass macht > > or better using a hyphen > > Playboy - alles was Maennern Spass macht > > would have been correct, as it's shown on the current web page > in a correct manner. > So! this explains a lot that I've noticed over the years. remember that im beyong =getting= old; I really Am old. before I started high school, the rules for commas were almost set in concrete. my english teacher took points off if there was an incorrect comma. it looks like in germany language has remained very strict. {but then, that's why punctuation exists.} I've noticed an easing of punctuation--esp'ly in the use of commas--in how I was taught. but let's face it: it's easier to text by slacking off. :) > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community.