From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Feb 23 11:48:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA28925 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28920 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) id OAA14020; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199702231943.OAA14020@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: RMS's view on dynamic linking To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Cc: hoek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca, jkh@time.cdrom.com, terry@lambert.org, ben@narcissus.ml.org, nate@trout.mt.sri.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199702231850.LAA06545@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Feb 23, 97 11:50:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > My point is that the project will steady-state at a given energy > level. If John did leave, why should we be satisfied with *one* > someone stepping up to the task? > In fact, I would be interested in even more collaboration on the VM code, for example. There is no reason that it just has to be that DG and I have been doing most of it. We have been getting good help from others (incl. PHK for ideas, and others.) As time goes on, much of the code that I have written will be replaced, with other, greater ideas, and it is likely that the person who does it will have worked or discussed it with me before it happens. But perhaps, I will have been long-gone, and the person says to himself (like I said about the terribly broken clock algorithm), "why in the h*ll did they do it that way?". None of us is replaceable, and as long as we can manage the development without it becoming chaotic or negative personality traits damaging cooperation, we can continue to grow, slowly and deliberately. Frankly, adding more noise to our discussions is distracting. Slow, deliberate growth is preferable to someone who "thinks" he/she knows it all being added and confusing things. I think that we are doing pretty well in that regard. The FreeBSD team members (both -core and other contributors) appear to take their trust seriously, and that seems to work fairly well with only a few breakdowns once in a while. But, what project doesn't have problems here and there? Of course, the conservativism(sp?) above has to be tempered so that new, truely innovative ideas don't get squashed. Oh well, I really don't know why I piped up on this discussion, other than procrastinating working on the Lite/2 ext2fs.... Back to work!!! :-). John