From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org  Sat Nov 14 17:54:34 2015
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org>
Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1])
 by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5800A2F37B
 for <freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>;
 Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:54:34 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com)
Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5])
 by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8F51B7D
 for <freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:54:34 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com)
Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix)
 id 993F7A2F379; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:54:34 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org
 [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1])
 by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DADA2F378;
 Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:54:34 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com)
Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [66.135.54.68])
 by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEBE1B7B;
 Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:54:34 +0000 (UTC)
 (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com)
Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502)
 id 4DC4B56083; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:54:33 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:54:33 -0600
From: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
To: Elizabeth Myers <elizabeth@interlinked.me>
Cc: "Brian McGovern (bmcgover)" <bmcgover@cisco.com>,
 Jordan Hubbard <jkh@mail.turbofuzz.com>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>,
 Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>,
 Anna Wilcox <AWilcox@wilcox-tech.com>,
 "sparc64@freebsd.org" <sparc64@freebsd.org>,
 Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about
 Sparc64
Message-ID: <20151114175433.GA19271@lonesome.com>
References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org>
 <2AAC0EF3-528B-476F-BA9C-CDC3004465D0@bsdimp.com>
 <20151108155501.GA1901@alchemy.franken.de>
 <563F8385.3090603@freebsd.org> <56417100.5050600@Wilcox-Tech.com>
 <CANCZdfqO-SdjnonGzRr2H0pDon5oALsDGsmG3KOxPGRVdTbHPQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <39947478-4710-47D8-BAB1-FC93979570B6@mail.turbofuzz.com>
 <f4d1114833994331bd1fd2273f305abc@XCH-RTP-005.cisco.com>
 <5646D19C.9010304@interlinked.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <5646D19C.9010304@interlinked.me>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12)
X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20
Precedence: list
List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc <freebsd-sparc64.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-sparc64>, 
 <mailto:freebsd-sparc64-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-sparc64/>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-sparc64-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64>, 
 <mailto:freebsd-sparc64-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:54:34 -0000

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:15:56AM -0600, Elizabeth Myers wrote:
> If that constitutes "project resources," then I suppose you are
> instructing people, "go spend your time doing something more productive?"

In the principle of fairness, let me play devil's advocate for a moment.

 - it does take some time for re@ to release and test sparc64 images.

 - having sparc64 in 'make universe' does require developers to spend
   more time regression-testing their (non-sparc64) changes.

OTOH once an architecture is removed from 'make universe' it's effectively
dead, as bitrot sets in instantly.

mcl