From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Aug 22 11:19: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD32737B423; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20960; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200008221832.LAA20960@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Brian Fundakowski Feldman Cc: Darren Reed , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , root@ihack.net, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Competition In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:02:00 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:32:03 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Whilst this has gone on long enough, I just want to make one comment here. > > > > The person to whom you're replying to in the email ago is allegedly being > > "blocked" from sending email to freebsd.org and whilst that's fine, it is > > hardly fitting to reply to such an email in such a way that only select > > parts of it are made public - sort of like replying to a private email on > > public lists. IMHO, either that email should be forwarded on or public > > references (including this one) to it should be deleted. > > Uhm, Darren, where do you see any "blocking" of sending email to > freebsd.org? If you mean mail.netbsd.org being blocked by postfix, > it's not. If you mean "root@ihack.net" address, it's not, either. Actually, "ihack.net" *is* being blocked. Because it's not set up correctly. Aug 22 00:21:34 hub postfix/smtpd[42146]: connect from r94aag002979.sbo-smr.ma.c able.rcn.com[209.6.183.136] Aug 22 00:21:35 hub postfix/smtpd[42146]: 5567A37B42C: client=r94aag002979.sbo-s mr.ma.cable.rcn.com[209.6.183.136] Aug 22 00:21:37 hub postfix/smtpd[42146]: reject: RCPT from r94aag002979.sbo-smr .ma.cable.rcn.com[209.6.183.136]: 450 : Helo command rejected : Host not found; from= to= I think that someone needs to take an introductory DNS class, and perhaps a class in reading mail headers as well, since each and every one of these would have resulted in a verbose bounce giving the exact cause of the problem. > > That such filtering of email exists is disgusting in many ways but is not > > a topic I want to go into since no side is without blame. > > > > Darren Actually, what this filtering serves to achieve is to reduce the immense amount of spam that you would otherwise receive as a subscriber to the FreeBSD lists. It's an irritating side-effect that people with misconfigured mail setups can't communicate with freebsd.org accounts (this hurts me quite a bit, actually), but I'll trade it for not having to wade through a 20-30% spam quotient in my inbox every morning. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message