From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 30 10:47:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28144 for current-outgoing; Fri, 30 May 1997 10:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sliphost37.uni-trier.de (root@sliphost37.uni-trier.de [136.199.240.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28121; Fri, 30 May 1997 10:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from blank@localhost) by sliphost37.uni-trier.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08226; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199705301733.TAA08226@sliphost37.uni-trier.de> From: Sascha Blank To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt Cc: blank@fox.uni-trier.de, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org, postmaster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ctm In-Reply-To: <199705301416.QAA04273@sos.freebsd.dk> References: <199705301253.OAA04727@sliphost37.uni-trier.de> <199705301416.QAA04273@sos.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 19.15p4 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: Sascha Blank X-PGP-Fingerprint: 26 FD 71 B5 48 12 42 91 10 1C 4F 74 70 48 6F 89 Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.023. Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id KAA28126 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Søren, >> "Søren" == Søren Schmidt writes: Søren> Hmm, I'm sorry about that, but it doesn't help the ones (like Søren> me) that depend on CTM delivering... It would have been nice Søren> if we had gotten a short statement to the fact that delivery Søren> could be unreliable for a short time.. I just want to save Richard from thoughts like "Hey, we are having major problems here with his stuff and this guy has the nerve to vanish from the face of the earth". It doesn't help us, but we know at least why he is not around. Søren> I'm not blaming anybody, I just rationalize the fact that (at Søren> least to me) CTM delivery is important (and as far as I'm Søren> concerned, it worked flawlessly under phk's wings, until the Søren> old setup broke) and its important that it works (and is Søren> looked after). I'm sorry if I got you wrong. I agree completely with you that a reliable CTM delivery is vital for many of us no matter whether they are a developer, a user or a site admin. And yes, I want to see it running again as soon as possible. But I'm afraid all we can do at the moment is to sit and wait for dataplex.net to come alive again. It is rather obvious that some of us have to think about additional reproduction and distribution ways to prevent future accidents of this kind once things are running again. Richard and I have already started discussing this topic, but regarding this latest incident it looks like we will have to expand the scope of our discussion. Sascha Blank, CTM-submeister -- Sascha Blank - mailto:blank@fox.uni-trier.de Student and System Administrator at the University of Trier, Germany Finger my account to receive my Public PGP key I don't speak for my employers, they don't pay me enough for that.