From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 30 15:22:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E9C16A407 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F4443D53 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so982858uge for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:22:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z9RlOGFYWcxnq3mC6UMymb8yS7Ytx0sfUephBa2wBEbTaWORmJKNn0L1TllsnFxnVNTFs/rYiPWbKQuxPAbCHTiJRHOq73gVlyLOkTZM7SJYs5ujLWwIZPvpyGtpNezLB/UAtjV6fBbARipAQgOJbL7cxXhDbyqgQuhfn8QUzLU= Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr5039815hud; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.139.10 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:22:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ee9ca710610300722y30e848f4g7b6f39ab91243e4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:22:32 -0500 From: "Andy Greenwood" To: "Lowell Gilbert" In-Reply-To: <448xixrh53.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ee9ca710610300524y7db3dc1bg56e144b452d90dc@mail.gmail.com> <448xixrh53.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW and PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:22:35 -0000 On 10/30/06, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Andy Greenwood" top-posted: > > > On 10/28/06, David Schulz wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> IPFW seems to be the same IPFW that is used on MacOSX, so it seems to > >> make sense to learn and lean on IPFW when using in a mixed Machine > >> Environment. On the other side, many People seem to say PF is easier > >> to manage once a setup gets complicated. As usual, both sides have > >> their own valid points. My question though is not whether any of the > >> two , IPFW of PF is better then the other, but which of the two do > >> you use, and why? > >> > > > PF, for two reasons. Firstly, because I don't have to mess with > > arbitrary rule numbers; I can just scroll down the page and know that > > rules will be executed in that order. Secondly becuase I can easily > > integrate bruteforceblocker. > > Wow. I can see some advantages either way, but I can't see any > differences on those grounds. After all, rule numbers *aren't* > required in ipfw (even the example script doesn't use them). And > bruteblock works with ipfw in *very* much the same way that > bruteforceblock does with pf. Sorry, that should've been Altq, not bruteforceblocker. I wasn't aware that rule numbers weren't required in IPFW. Oh well, you learn something new everyday. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- I'm nerdy in the extreme and whiter than sour cream