From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 2 23:54:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E0916A400 for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 23:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail4out.barnet.com.au (mail4.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC56E13C43E for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 23:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail4out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 346FB37D307; Thu, 3 May 2007 09:54:36 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <463924BC000044FC15BE4F@BarNet> Received: from mail4auth.barnet.com.au (mail4.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail4.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD4242208E; Thu, 3 May 2007 09:54:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (k7.mavetju.org [10.251.1.18]) by mail4auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF10837D273; Thu, 3 May 2007 09:54:35 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 896CEB1; Thu, 3 May 2007 09:54:35 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:54:35 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20070502235435.GA1242@k7.mavetju> References: <20070502193159.GB42482@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070502193159.GB42482@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: xorg upgrade plans X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 23:54:38 -0000 On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:31:59PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: > 3) Once the proposed upgrade method is in place, we will publish a > tarball of the prepared ports tree and request that *all* our ports > developers test the upgrade on their own machines before it is > committed to CVS. There are many things that can go wrong and we need > to make sure that the upgrade goes as smoothly as possible for our > less technical users. In particular all ports committers are expected > to participate in this process of eating our own dogfood :) You're talking about the software which gets installed and configured only once on my machine (that is when it is removed from the box), being fiddled with for days to get it working in 1280x1024 in 16bpp (because 24bpp only works in 1024x768), caused me hundreds of hangs and reboots because I enter the wrong values in some obscure register somewhere and cause frightened looks of my wife and son when I come outside my study because the computer is fsck()ing again after an unexpected hang? You are asking a lot of me :-) Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/