From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 23:16:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E268BF; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x22a.google.com (mail-we0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEA6F52; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id z53so9277303wey.1 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:16:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GOeCgG+53M8WFFYqBXym8FpLVZ+z0dR5ntZKOaIykBg=; b=QwWmXvmc8kDGnpvvnkvg8AFwIyopwoPmSfwjjGjNo2c+vEaHwXZIk9coun75SHIko6 P3YhtJ/zy3Pz14C0QR3lWE7fjTnSUEaHBe/JlItLlQ8iumrG0KqU8nutf3CmiECl2krp /KcKjhOtd4L01qvfwW4nd12GmXuHZhDrgoayrr4jObU6cmq8yP2x8591rQJ4ByBki8qq 1kghzmMAVQLFtuFuuuh0qPfpRrIbut4lhrmc9QDfa6j5bl1vFGs3L/nScj9HOlb92Ac9 LBF04QgCaTUqHhF+l1NJfwHqsBDXxjUYH8BAuBv7msk3/+0pR+YO29kc4ACUChuVhCCL 06zg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.178.9 with SMTP id cu9mr30070117wjc.39.1362611762320; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:16:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.51.2 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:16:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130307005649.35a6b9ae.ray@freebsd.org> References: <1362445777.1195.299.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <3DFABC9A-876A-4F34-9E15-E4C630D7B077@bsdimp.com> <1362542286.1291.94.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <4CF23AFE-DD69-40AA-ACFB-46F055F0AA3F@bsdimp.com> <1362594744.1291.132.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <20130306234004.bf113967.ray@freebsd.org> <4C0099FA-BBBE-4F93-8C97-CE5B79465829@bsdimp.com> <20130307005649.35a6b9ae.ray@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:16:02 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 71r40uXR8EircUIhjPKnTuNCGZs Message-ID: Subject: Re: GENERIC kernel issues From: Adrian Chadd To: Aleksandr Rybalko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Ian Lepore X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:16:04 -0000 Peeps, If you make the boot process too complicated and it stops being "load kernel via flash/NFS, boot" then people may just not bother. :-) I know you're going for correctness and we're hampered by how "linux does things', but I really do suggest that you first get working, packaged, easily installed and updated systems using what we currently heave before you try to make a 'much nicer but noone ever uses it' solution. Please don't fall down the trap of "over-engineering correctness that noone will ever use." that software people do when they don't have deliverables. 2c, Adrian