From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 19 10:11:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E53816A474 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: from web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E67443D7E for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:11:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 31662 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2006 10:11:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tp0p92lVWQsECTYQ4r2caSCHc3Z18bKj7Py8bAyIb11LXGqTRHLNOZEDHyIo68I+y0MGavrXsAvFPNYWkHwg3HXu0Bnhl8Rj7uqckK6l+42Tqz3Qd1EwdCsCxSBqTOS62mNJS2lLputHuetzOtzAORjz57Q0iUEfkNBKhpWqRME= ; Message-ID: <20060619101133.31660.qmail@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.54.84.110] by web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:11:33 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:11:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. B. Riddick" To: Dag-Erling "Smørgrav" In-Reply-To: <86odwpwm84.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Nick Borisov Subject: Re: memory pages nulling when releasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:11:38 -0000 --- Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > "R. B. Riddick" writes: > > (bb) physical access (for reading the content of powered off RAM) > > You cannot read the content of powered-off DRAM. > Yes, that it is true. _I_ cannot read powered-off DRAM... But my feathered friends beyond the seven mountains with bird-like heads and big muscled chests and arms and legs and a super-duper-computer (abbr.: CIA) could possibly do that... At least I saw that in TV (CSI Wanne-Eickel or so), how they read from a overwritten hard disc shreddered with a "laser"... -Arne --- Arne likes Keanu Reeves and Dr.Evil and CSI... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com