From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Nov 11 18:48: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A1137B479; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA11820; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:47:54 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda11818; Sat Nov 11 18:47:38 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAC2lXg01562; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdTe1560; Sat Nov 11 18:46:55 2000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAC2ksC39398; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:46:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011120246.eAC2ksC39398@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdo39297; Sat Nov 11 18:46:02 2000 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE X-Mailer: nmh 1.0.4, Exmh 2.1.1 X-Sender: cy To: Brian Dean Cc: "David O'Brien" , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: updating rdist In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:12:54 EST." <20001111211254.B75129@vger.bsdhome.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:46:01 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20001111211254.B75129@vger.bsdhome.com>, Brian Dean writes: > On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 03:59:05AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > > I have just committed a `44bsd-rdist' port. > > So the question is, do we totally remove `rdist' from the base system, > > or update it to rdist 6.1.5? > > My strong preference is to have an rdist in base. Please update > rather than remove. However, it won't be compatible with any vendors rdist and will only be useful in FreeBSD/Linux-only environments unless rdist6 has been installed on any vendors (Solaris, Tru64-UNIX, AIX, HP/UX, DG-UX, ...) systems you may manage. If we're not interoperable with other UNIXen, why even have it in base? If you manage a mix of FreeBSD/Linux systems only I can see having it in base. If you manage a heterogeneous environment with legacy applications that use rdist across platforms, like I do, it's just bloat that can be installed if required from ports. If you manage a new site without any ties to the past, skip rdist entirely and use rsync. If you have to interoperate with Solaris, AIX, Tru64-UNIX, HP/UX, DG-UX, and SVR4.2: Use 44bsd-rdist. If you have to interoperate with Linux: Use rdist6. If you want to use something truly modern: Use rsync. If you are going to go to all the trouble of installing rdist6 on vendor systems, e.g. Solaris, etc., in order to interoperate with the Linux and proposed FreeBSD, why not install rsync instead. It's eaiser to use and doesn't require a distfile. That's why I think rdist is bloat. Hence I don't think there should be any preference given to one software/file distribution package over another. They all attempt to do the same thing using different protocols. Let the user decide what they need for their environment. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message