From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 2 23:45:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCFB16A407 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: from users.757.org (users.757.org [216.54.62.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D4D43D45 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:45:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from telmnstr@757.org) Received: by users.757.org (Postfix, from userid 1123) id 9B647A5EE; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by users.757.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99191A5E7 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:45:05 -0400 (EDT) From: telmnstr@757.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <45215BA2.6040703@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EV1 Servers makes me sick X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:45:18 -0000 >> EV1Servers has never been a major supporter of FreeBSD -- back when >> they were RackShack, it took a petition of several hundred people >> before they started offering FreeBSD at all. >> I wonder if they'll start offering more recent FreeBSD releases next >> month after FreeBSD 5.4 becomes unsupported... The real issue is, the Linux distros like redhat have a nice, good, easy, way to kick the machine on auto as far as major security patches. In the mainstream world, there is most likely little demand for FreeBSD. Most people probably don't care so much about the OS, it's more about the apps. And I believe Linux handles JAVA servers better, and JAVA is the modern language of business. In the end, the costs of supporting BSD might be high, in comparison to Linux. What could FreeBSD do? How about a system similiar to that offered by RedHat, or Microsoft's "Windows Update" where major packages are automatically tracked and updated when there is a flaw? I'm not trying to knock BSD, although I admit many of my friends who were hardcore BSD people were alienated with 5.x and 6.x, and have mostly left for Linux or NetBSD. I do appreciate what the FreeBSD team does, but the fact is it got a bit too hectic. Just random thoughts. When in doubt, rent a server and run whatever you want.