From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 24 20:17:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24112 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:17:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fgwmail.fujitsu.co.jp (fgwmail.fujitsu.co.jp [164.71.1.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24096 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:17:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seki@sysrap.cs.fujitsu.co.jp) Received: from fdmmail.fujitsu.co.jp by fgwmail.fujitsu.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6Wbeta7-MX971215-Fujitsu Mail Gateway) id NAA25219; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:16:58 +0900 (JST) Received: from nile.sysrap.cs.fujitsu.co.jp by fdmmail.fujitsu.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W-980127-Fujitsu Domain Mail Master) id NAA13156; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:16:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nile.sysrap.cs.fujitsu.co.jp (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16371 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:16:25 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: errormessages X-Mailer: Mew version 1.91 on Emacs 20.2 / Mule 3.0 (MOMIJINOGA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980225131624C.seki@sysrap.cs.fujitsu.co.jp> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:16:24 +0900 From: Masahiro Sekiguchi X-Dispatcher: imput version 970918 Lines: 24 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Why dont errormessages contain an unique errornumber too? Because it makes users feel some thing like they were living in '50s or '60s. :-) BTW, > Like: "foo: Error#13: Smurf seriously overgulfed" > easier to find the error, when somebody on the mailinglists > writes "Hey, I got this message something like the Smurf was gulfed". I see no significant difference between that and "Error#13 occured;" It will only cause a flood of replys saying something like: "Just saying Error#13 helps nothing; the name of the quimmer is absolutely important to solve your gulfer problem. Was it Smurf, Snarf or Barf?" The point is, when we ask about the message we don't understand, we have to include *entire* message in its *complete* form in the mail. Since message numbers give users impression that just writing the number is enough, the bad practice of tightfisted question will be propagated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message