From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 7 08:51:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43E416A419 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5381C13C45B for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so11226010fka.11 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:51:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=weh05n8O22HET3b5Ksb1kyy78yp2gkc5wcQ/nt0s2/w=; b=k4WFERIA9y4gjkq4mPTjInQucJNFy6wAq/ymWij6BJBO1M4CclCmi0k+Uw5443lzPT7LamJFRMjeUYEcZabnWjVA1LkU7zEDOo+7BMTqxypPYEVO0e1gPwy0W1zZKmdmUrINn4W4P8JW6o1aQABXqk+8AG5QsKKevpnYe/N9VBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T6419T30DCQ7k7Srz8/fTx0K0LTB9lsCTDCWw8xnIkKNuvvrBslsuWEPw49o1ZnkWXkHeXveVU/es7ihH5jsvv8JoyZnMIUunnR8Qi7P2gmnhKzq31KjBqyR3HFJVCjlDa7Q7i2jAtGA4O2fDAbkpgTegXv5gsgWsNIecay4NvY= Received: by 10.82.106.14 with SMTP id e14mr27513118buc.38.1199695877726; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.159.19 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:51:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0801070051u4ccf2ae5oba77579674c1837d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:51:17 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Igor Mozolevsky" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4780E546.9050303@FreeBSD.org> <9bbcef730801060651y489f1f9bw269d0968407dd8fb@mail.gmail.com> <4780EF09.4090908@FreeBSD.org> <47810BE3.4080601@FreeBSD.org> <4781227B.5020800@rcn.com> <47814EAB.70405@FreeBSD.org> <14989d6e0801062310q6992630et93370d5d2d0be2c7@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:51:19 -0000 Hello igor, On 07/01/2008, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > On 07/01/2008, Christian Walther wrote: > > > I don't think so. My guess is that partitioning/slicing disks is a > > pain for most of the users. How does one tell how big a filesystem > > should be, even or especially on the desktop? I found myself having to > > cope with full filesystems several times. > > That could be a good thing (think programs creating lots of files and > not cleaning up after themselves)... > > > Using ZFS even on one disk just to get rid of fixed partition/slice > > boundaries is a good thing. > > How is that different to creating one / slice of FFS? With ZFS there aren't fixed boundaries as there are with the slice/partition theme. You can use reservation and quota to determine how much free space is guaranteed for a ZFS and the maximum size a ZFS is allowed to grow to. If you feel that these boundaries/limitations aren't of any use anymore, changing/removing them is just a matter of "zfs set...". > Igor :-) Christian