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Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.23.186] (unknown [89.113.128.32]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.not-for.work (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E665F152FB; Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:19:39 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base To: kris@ixsystems.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> From: Lev Serebryakov Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=lev@FreeBSD.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFKbGksBEADeguVs+XyJc3mL3iiOBqDd16wSk97YTJYOi4VsHsINzJr09oFvNDiaDBIi fLn2p8XcJvehcsF2GSgrfXfw+uK4O1jyNIKJmiYA0EtE+ZbRtvDrrE0w6Q8+SDeKA21SWh3Y vSQ0DJUontbgW55ER2CbEiIUTIn34uQ0kmESAaw/v5p/9ue8yPTmURvv130FqPFz8VPzltqL NxyGt54TxPfKAzAHEIwxlEZ63JOwzloKh1UDBExcsf9nJO08/TAVgR5UZ5njFBPzaaquhRoP qPJLEQQDqxPIlvMNtHKf7iIebE4BHeqgCdJA0BoiR6gpa0wlsZtdrTPK3n4wYSphLvGbhfOZ YW/hbcu7HYS/FImkVxB3iY17kcC1UTnx4ZaYeASPBGOOPbXky1lLfmDGWIFT//70yx+G17qD OZzF1SvJJhGvh6ilFYaWMX7T+nIp6Mcafc4D7AakXM+XdubNXOMlCJhzPcZ0skgAEnYV587w V7em5fDVwQccwvtfezzqKeJAU5TGiywBHSR5Svzk2FwRNf6M//hWkpq0SRR63iOhkHGOAEBi 69GfEIwH2/w24rLxP0E+Hqq8n+EWNkPatw1Mhcl5PKkdvGCjJUaGNMkpBffjyYo254JXRscR eEnwdIkJt4ErDvjb2/UrOFq31wWMOiLzJeVchAgvTHBMRfP9aQARAQABtCFMZXYgU2VyZWJy eWFrb3YgPGxldkBGcmVlQlNELm9yZz6JAlYEEwEIAEACGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgID AQIeAQIXgBYhBPltHKC19DGLZ0szCuqwPFi/3EePBQJb/TeXBQkPBbfGAAoJEOqwPFi/3EeP LtEQANQLS89OCDSnLDZLyCj7sH5GZbTikJp9Or2McqEOpjgtfY/OgqCe7lfo8f71tTN3gL2t VGtNEtsl6CqKeBdm6fqsetCAed2+waJfbXLZWReLRSFQJ/cbof8MB3h/uEw8Zng1ZbyEU0eG rc41Mhk8bTfxjNRjkXDbp0+2xug+eRr2RYhiY2SxH+iy57AbRIu9gkjfL05VztfvsV5dPxt7 +reHf2Vhtu+qCRtCytGQqDvYWGpVZ8U5fHJxFdsJpn66LAe8w+iRGCbppB5TKeHkqWqDb++u sd5ZHzwep/7qcLBeKggi8+a2C3J1J4TpYBwdPgusrGtBPf2EYSTc/0mW5j86g1l8UDN9qXAI FvWbKf22p5SlYUzf5qRLny4ZdDl1mH13lmJV7ZkZGMKnt0IjJ2x0LRgLGhiSm/D4Lh8yc/MX uhj9BB020XbWcMUPpA7S7YaWeIXbnK3NrPU0yk77prFJblfskOwuaxJIwa2mX+cCAQA95As5 2talifo4Kh8OLSvS1gpbMo64LllTzuGbCWuKecH3fpMlZlD7/10z9lBvkSXA7KgadDfN0yHO xGCK8KE9gXXmEVRlbgGDYOJw9FLWHuSZHUvQTkmr4goXrmMIKa9A4BKO3s9vowP4pJ0vp3kz MIBeEwKSvAeZZfgKbIKggKUuQ5gsAqvF360sG3+UuQINBFKbGksBEAC0a9wfjo2P3JyT7Lc+ QlbFVshGbSbazb4ma7QYG5IZZD5vfLBFkePoG6cnrn3WCXp4A43hszAynCwe4eXyAkv4+gPF 3ZSeNE5Wz3zYG+jh2nm2iGCkyaVykfbA+2chor2DKH5tHpuNMBlF+wSJHZKJmlo/sFIktAnV 1NBVg4/cL+9/hIpvl82cl3hYCD7/e7/qRE+w38CpAAzn65FvbODn7xlY3fsJt+cHPBJ4EBM9 KnTwcce+F+72RQMZQEl7vIAwSRmLdgZHN0MFC533l62SVoKjT0eaOOIBrvesmojhWjfwugib Xr+WRF/tGcW77Bxwe2eQLbEVESqWeMORxRxocx7Q7aACoHmf4G4U1Vzx7zUEfNfHjfjZeQVf AURf/MoUelZSW/BmMIfKCg3lRlWAt+Pq2h2UADPVqAZze45beE/c8z8LZsOZiGoRhYL8NSg6 +ziLTdmYLWdtFGAuZhqOtNp5h6tGj21OksBotcaIa5YjbCmmnImIjGlSBkUKvIhq/RXth5b2 gNwaQdu+Yv4AlZVHRsuVywL/skDFL5+We11bDK6MQ5PzvmntRJcgbyoisn1hiV04OV1LpJJM kJn1j8VlBqDQNT/z+BjB0ru/0anv+5uLj7v0ck06rEo4yiXT/ZAcBM76j7V7FaGbkoba6bUU CQ2H5YYBOKpikjCnpwARAQABiQI8BBgBCAAmAhsMFiEE+W0coLX0MYtnSzMK6rA8WL/cR48F Alv9N7IFCQ8Ft+cACgkQ6rA8WL/cR49wpw//W7QrZHKYUWEVHtPLVMlcM1f7MgwnYlIRe/I6 gykwvt87sqxSYu7eHxfX6JZR2M9UYuUYscSR57gxXKu2Uzqaz2KjvEIXJCwCTsuXZjkQ19oL hAPsucw2AcMI6YqPXbZ7hO0Mh8jMeJzD6vDvx3zvunQxGQoZKxr3BvRUyO7NCYbA7N8ccI3E Tmdjj9JTbtue9WaUeGLszFDiITmkASBdsK07y4ylLAJzUGCvYLBU3gx0bBOB2S8SbxHYmQlj ewjovbp+MbT+CoXNxZp+gDRModGyIMdRIotkRiDbgNl0VWIT0SS1GUUlUHKzQ/ZPUvpvk6Gq s/SYBS7rBQNSoXXmJxNW6I6atVNW7JhInC1tkHxBlbpik4FK07J6NHFTx+9ygyCxbxwNA/Le FGkL3kU0VFXR2dNiAVbeueUPF6tU5Bye5ftgpLKOSAbo1g++EKUkc8335/4oYRBMcGEk4xUr NAvzoFPhA2W3KtklruJ9ThrFt9+//NB5ySlVgTwGWMuBJoskEmNOTBv34/UQPUIuE4xSwy6y H+nRQJooiMFo5QCosslJPlwyV63NS9lYXB6n3QWOCP6sFdWACNUCOFv4uk7LQdY9BsCmt2Tk cLuHmoS+fvUesQXnYV2aQi9HciriPIj2gvJ6WjgiaC/PpePil0fzyrfG/JMyHL0qcgmYoj0= Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <1393169f-7988-7ce6-e030-8c61727f78b8@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:19:39 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TpJm1J75TwcSaTJFJfGZFTd5x8HJHCQ4J" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 743EE76D39 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.94 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[FreeBSD.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.942,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:96.47.64.0/20, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:19:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --TpJm1J75TwcSaTJFJfGZFTd5x8HJHCQ4J Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="vEqawuU6GRUsEVGjwIDj1i4SK2KWTYwfU"; protected-headers="v1" From: Lev Serebryakov Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org To: kris@ixsystems.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1393169f-7988-7ce6-e030-8c61727f78b8@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base References: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> --vEqawuU6GRUsEVGjwIDj1i4SK2KWTYwfU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28.04.2019 22:52, kris@ixsystems.com wrote: > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and 13-cu= rrent > using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images w= hich > will allow users to perform all updating via the 'pkg' command directly= =2E > Rather than trying to answer all questions in this announcement, we've > created a FAQ page with more details. Please refer to this page, and le= t us > know if you have additional questions that we can include on that page = going > forward. Is it too coarse, isn't it? I'm not very interested in packetized base for "big servers" which contains full FreeBSd installation, but I have several NanoBSD installations, which have more than 100 "WITHOUT_XXX" options in src.conf. I want to have packetized base to create such images via `pkg' Not all these options could be converted to packages, options like WITHOUT_KERBEROS is more build option, but about 2/3 of these options turn off some file-based features, like sendmail, PPP, toolchain or bzip2= =2E IMHO, to be really useful packets in base should be based on these src.conf options to have ability to skip unneeded "optional" base components (including, for example, man pages!). And one more, not covered with src.conf WITHOUT_XXX: static libraries and header files, of course! --=20 // Lev Serebryakov --vEqawuU6GRUsEVGjwIDj1i4SK2KWTYwfU-- --TpJm1J75TwcSaTJFJfGZFTd5x8HJHCQ4J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE+W0coLX0MYtnSzMK6rA8WL/cR48FAlzG+etfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEY5 NkQxQ0EwQjVGNDMxOEI2NzRCMzMwQUVBQjAzQzU4QkZEQzQ3OEYACgkQ6rA8WL/c R48NAw/+KK6UG12QnKFby79sKgBJ2TxAq7r5cAqQsCYDtnXVF1az8K5MugU/yGjA 7E/iVSSIqATll5m/AXvBCJZXCNQmv5ufKRm9tjMvDtSksOzpe5o9AMaiEqGD9SEh rcAvji5cZ1L2MRzHXYc1v4vhJ/KfTFeUpQFcoojW2vItdoPwTmDdqavwme1WULaE g21RGKtRy4Hi2E/MoLANRf3YGc5OnjOPTU2ZmBqsNNXdaElzXbeopk8+hhZ90SR9 tGmO1Ej6eXsXY0BGjC0f6lVHHWoh34GQD4lMXPipavzmhOetLcTgqe6cdM0XKC7J b++rpfJh53AoEiZKassTTXmASDGgsci+1TOK9xeunEvzTa1iOa8WTwRdM6MyR29O wzUYGTG4eX9JG3A5iOAthda3m3GnSjYNk6PJInDcHsW1CIL8XSMowgHJ5A9YVNC8 1e2P7HSTqiepW5MvggZRN1ah99AXYANt6KZIewc9VoHhg7e1hTZ2dyx19yGt8utl FVzXKkNUQLRWaK2CSHGetQMtf2+LY0OR+JfBr/KqQZ23XzXSr33qlzlEHvVDc2f4 xcE0lOXR1d1qzwzJSOuOPhwfaZkEzExGT8g7zNHpW4qegFm/voloXr/y5rPSrrZB VabtDf4HbvidUaVKSO9nO4ZijM8YJAt+vjTv/fHJEPeIeJCg7e8= =RYqC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TpJm1J75TwcSaTJFJfGZFTd5x8HJHCQ4J--