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Date:      Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:24:21 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        nate@mt.sri.com
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, rjesup@wgate.com, imp@village.org, arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Racing interrupts
Message-ID:  <199910302124.OAA00920@usr06.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199910291851.MAA05434@mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Oct 29, 99 12:51:41 pm

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> > I don't believe in impossible
> 
> OK, I want to fly w/out use of external devices.
> 
> Oh, you mean with software?
> 
> I want my computer to run 100X faster than it does now, w/out changing
> any of the hardware!


There is a difference between violation of physical laws, and
a race window that is a result of a lack of code correctness.

You have not demonstrated that the race window to which you
refer is in fact an artifact of the hardware design, and not
an artifact of the software design.  You have practically
admitted that this is the case, when you performed your
analysis of the race in a PCMCIA/PCCARD utilyzing fast
interrupts (answer: don't use fast interrupts, or make them
an option for ejectable cards, which is defaulted to disabled).


> > and I don't care about overhead if something is worth doing.
> 
> Cool.  I want you to start using my new compressed FS, which allows you
> to store 3X as much data on your hard disk.  Unfortunately, the overhead
> of compressing/decompressing slows access to 1K/sec max., but it's worth
> doing, so the overhead is irrelevant.
> 
> In other words, do you realize how silly you sound?

Not as silly as you sound, claiming that something which bounds
your I/O to 1k/sec max is "worth doing".  8-).


Note: to thwart your taking the I/O rate bounding strawman as a
reson why PCMCIA/PCCARD devices should be allowed to use fast
interrupts by default, I will quote Ed Lane:

	"I can make it go as fast as you want, so long as it
	 doesn't have to work."


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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