From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Oct 23 16:03:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD11C17F29 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from home.opsec.eu (home.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 747209B1 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@opsec.eu) Received: from pi by home.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1byLFY-000P1G-5T; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:03:52 +0200 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:03:52 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: "Mikhail T." Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted Message-ID: <20161023160352.GX51420@home.opsec.eu> References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> <14ff8102-d360-507e-a03b-2ed07b4a5823@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14ff8102-d360-507e-a03b-2ed07b4a5823@aldan.algebra.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:03:50 -0000 Hi! > Is this -- being more inclusive (whatever that means) -- > even a valid goal for a technical project? That depends on those working on the project. If they wonder why systems programming is so one-sided when it cames to age, gender, race, etc, then: yes, it becomes a goal. Please remember that there was another discussion at that time (August 2016), which caused the loss of relevant contributors because the project did not react in a manner that was seen sensible from all sides. I would not count one such action as a huge change of direction, but I would not welcome it either if the project started long discussions on on-sidedness and missed out on the technical ones. So, lets get back to technical stuff 8-} -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 4 years to go !