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[173.19.125.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w15sm1187002ywg.1.2020.02.26.09.15.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:15:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 11:15:29 -0600 From: Justin Hibbits To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Removing: bktr(4) Brooktree Video Capture card Message-ID: <20200226111529.4fbc69b2@titan.knownspace> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd13.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48SMrQ5qd4z4QgT X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ZC1BXA9K; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chmeeedalf@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::c36 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chmeeedalf@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[130.125.19.173.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.c.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.11), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.88), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 06:36:47 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:15:36 -0000 On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 17:46:02 -0700 Warner Losh wrote: > Greetings, > > I think that the time has come to remove bktr(4) from the tree. This > is for PCI-only hardware that can't do better than SD capture. For > its time (~2000) it was a cool card. However, it's no longer relevant > to FreeBSD and is completely unused as far as I can tell. The bread > crumbs in my searches end around 2006 in the NYCBUG dmesg database. > > Comments? > > Warner I had/have(?) one of these cards, and getting bktr(4) working for my card (ATI TV Wonder, non-VE) was one of my first contributions to FreeBSD, almost 16 years ago. Aside from being unused now, it's likely unusable, since at least in the US OTA is ATSC-only, and cable has done away with analog long ago, so it might be useful for old game consoles, maybe? Agreed, long since time to remove it. - Justin