From nobody Wed Sep 6 17:52:43 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rgqj40WxSz4sYVQ for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 17:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com (mail-ed1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rgqj35mFFz4HYf for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 17:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-52a250aa012so31227a12.3 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 10:52:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1694022774; x=1694627574; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=57ZoIhp/lie9boBn/1UaKydzXlwFikEXpKg1Za2OngI=; b=EKTETOglCrWPUTlsgL3gPioOE5B44/dCcV7hMnUwOhlWVI9Zyzawh3RnZIjJ8jAlyp ZkxkEkHYqPcP3Ql+Jp/lK/SKfuY5/rkwlQQzGOi2BdZGaoBwCQ05supKKzKWLptzYpmJ HR3RVGu/AKusFq2B52G8Fn2XVWMEeJ9ELXCtZUhPnN0Avg1V/GszU6DZ23GnUh6ht6J1 52H2ziycy6HVs6V4NP1Fo5fgtNDRz3RrF7Y6ZSAmSobsbgnNd+3j5xdSla3o7dD4sGS9 muRudgLYNDWWPdLFmk49/CGX145Bc5BpjfcSrsrCDCVmFMmnsOUUxw1n8mHSwR64/r9/ HdOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1694022774; x=1694627574; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=57ZoIhp/lie9boBn/1UaKydzXlwFikEXpKg1Za2OngI=; b=JsTi1t/OG5MEfnN3o+xvo8RzINtqUo2sdxcZGdZ4DuBGuq9H9gWhKbA96OyBEPjsIV /LddJRyT1X4EipS8YQo6nXySzV+d66b6XlDYJ9pPMNWl4YZR2H8QPzMdTKuutzIdFIPh VhiM9kykqWDBkOg1EZq0wfhWxa+LZtXnndo9JRq7Bq/Ox1R2k50YK5T1nT6gXa4gDdpF 5c8eXUMASBRTqOgYg9y8l0tmf46vlCaJq+TWwQ5CZEw94kUxvo3AZh4W2vi3dAlViqXN DTVZCSUvNQKyuwc0f8NIqixoGG8txuQMWega0mafcBou3rP7sUbdrOocS7qFcdHk9KIP 6cbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx6/P1OA1ZdDj6LoW62vH8x8TZxlixC+i7wP35B/qMFgtNpht2f 8kfDyiIpPT1p/KiY/hks05WufTC3ywMPOX4xTUYNH37RJqNZwEb3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IECRFcYqxbCHn8XBtYHH6Nyckkbz9OViuacxgb9Anm2U4DRvSA/M0infhdapw0jgIvP8/M4L3zG1r1w0M6VAoM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1ac4:b0:528:90d7:a1f with SMTP id ba4-20020a0564021ac400b0052890d70a1fmr3079226edb.10.1694022774471; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 10:52:54 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230905160359.51C07C0@slippy.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 11:52:43 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Last bits of SCCS, RCS, CVS and Subversion IDs To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Cc: Cy Schubert , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b6d9ff0604b46965" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rgqj35mFFz4HYf --000000000000b6d9ff0604b46965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 12:18=E2=80=AFPM Steve Kargl < sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2023 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > The reset of that thought is that the other remaining SVN / CVS / RCS / > > SCCS tags are from projects that no longer really have an upstream. > > They are defunkt now for many years (decades in all cases I'm familiar > > with, but I've not done a full audit to say that with certainty). They > > also date from a time where marking of sources and binaries was > fundamentally > > different, and did things that we no longer do and are out of step. So > > there's no benefit to retaining it and some desire, at least to > modernize. > > > > Warner, > > As part of the purge of the ids, are you planning to remove ident(1)? > I was not. I have no opinion as to whether or not it should remain. Warner --000000000000b6d9ff0604b46965 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 12:18=E2=80=AF= PM Steve Kargl <sgk@= troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 05, 2023 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Warne= r Losh wrote:
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> The reset of that thought is that the other remaining SVN / CVS / RCS = /
> SCCS tags are from projects that no longer really have an upstream. > They are defunkt now for many years (decades in all cases I'm fami= liar
> with, but I've not done a full audit to say that with certainty). = They
> also date from a time where marking of sources and binaries was fundam= entally
> different, and did things that we no longer do and are out of step. So=
> there's no benefit to retaining it and some desire, at least to mo= dernize.
>

Warner,

As part of the purge of the ids, are you planning to remove ident(1)?

I was not. I have no opinion as to whether o= r not it should remain.

Warner=C2=A0
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