From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Aug 17 22:44:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDFCB3EB5 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 469wGw5T3Fz3Mmv for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([96.28.161.151]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id z7QqhutoGP088z7Qsh78Dg; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:44:22 +0000 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:43:33 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox or what? References: <20190812173754.9bbd34f75885d616ae5d074a@gc-24.de> <20190812164800.1bc5581b40de9436a977ea02@sohara.org> <875zn22mmc.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <871rxorh4y.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <5be8adb1-cf57-9e24-4ce9-27a76cc3ece8@netfence.it> <3e27ec4d-65d0-063e-eb5e-4465aa4cbc84@gmail.com> <20190815124616.3916a9a0e4958c29917c57fd@gc-24.de> <39be165e-0d6c-5ba5-7fec-caaae9603812@gmail.com> <20190815190435.ae53f114489da5de8cf343d1@gc-24.de> <063af304b35c7b8f852ec0a00f1282f24f8db56e.camel@rocketmail.com> <5cf06276-5b83-dc43-9a66-6dd2489391de@netfence.it> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAzM2HvRIyzpNIXhDxm4dEPRnrAFronNVr/srDl0MElxp0CUafExhbpOYwUcP3gTEWnfggOzClTnQgwjupoIPi61W/Be9GxVdUzRhMNfhu+u4SGmzrjY XYr5WkeKWki068zsDANzFTWPG9jfbNYAIBiOWwWNMIwd/4jqBgWK1rk9 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 469wGw5T3Fz3Mmv X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mueller6722@twc.com designates 107.14.73.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mueller6722@twc.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.24 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[151.161.28.96.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; MISSING_MID(2.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-4.01), ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-2.83), asn: 7843(-2.26), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[228.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:44:25 -0000 from Andrea Venturoli: > While continuing this thread down the slope it got (with useless arguments on > netiquette, release engineering, supposed NFS incompatibilities, etc...) is a > nonsense, I think half the OP's original question still holds, i.e.: what > viable browsers (other than FireFox) do we have available in the port > collection? > Some times ago, when PaleMoon was removed, I felt the need to find an > alternative. > Searching the www categories and excluding text-only browsers, still yields a > lot of results. > Some are too lightweight (read: they can't make "modern" > useless-javascript-crap-infested sites work), some just crash... trying them > all would be a huge task. > So I hoped to collect experiences on this. I was favorably impressed by Otter Browser, but have not been able to update because my FreeBSD installation, 11.1-STABLE, is too far behind for updating ports. I can see Dillo and Netsurf are too lightweight, not up to the gymnastics required by modern crap-infested websites. I would also like to try to build Midori again, a more modern version than 0.5.11. Tom