From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 19 06:33:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA03690 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ginger.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (root@ginger.cmf.nrl.navy.mil [134.207.10.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA03685 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmsun.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (kenh@cmsun.cmf.nrl.navy.mil [134.207.10.4]) by ginger.cmf.nrl.navy.mil (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA03482; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:32:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199603191432.JAA03482@ginger.cmf.nrl.navy.mil> To: Michael Smith cc: alk@Think.COM (Tony Kimball), hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:32:32 +1030." <199603190202.MAA27505@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Face: "Evs"_GpJ]],xS)b$T2#V&{KfP_i2`TlPrY$Iv9+TQ!6+`~+l)#7I)0xr1>4hfd{#0B4 WIn3jU;bql;{2Uq%zw5bF4?%F&&j8@KaT?#vBGk}u07<+6/`.F-3_GA@6Bq5gN9\+s;_d gD\SW #]iN_U0 KUmOR.P<|um5yPkEpSD@*e` Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:32:58 -0500 From: Ken Hornstein Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Xf users: How does xf compare, as a resource editor? > >Xf is wonderful, but tied to outdated versions of Tcl/Tk. If someone were >to bring it up to date, the Tk community would be extatic. Unfortunately, >Sven appears to have better things to do with his time 8( Actually, I disagree. I think xf is kinda yukky. The big problem with xf is that it's kinda a pain to use. And if you don't know Tcl/Tk, it's impossible to use (try figuring out the difference between fill and expand by just using xf. Blah!). I tried it at first before I knew Tcl/Tk, and I just gave up and learned Tcl/Tk. Once I learned Tcl/Tk, I discovered that it was just easier to write my programs in Tcl/Tk directly than to use Xf. There was an interesting discussion about Xf on comp.lang.tcl a while ago. When I posted my experiences with Xf, about 10 people followed up my article and said, "Hey, I had the exact same thing happen to me!". Go figure :-) --Ken