From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Feb 22 15:40:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00310 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA00303 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 15:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA05383; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:35:27 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199702222335.QAA05383@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: RMS's view on dynamic linking To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:35:27 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, ben@narcissus.ml.org, nate@trout.mt.sri.com, chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <12084.856651998@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Feb 22, 97 02:53:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You mean when I go on about social engineering. The only thing > > political about it is the opposition. Don't confuse political > > science with applied sociology. > > Funny, according to this book, you've been going on about political > engineering and the only opposition to it has been social ("this group > doesn't want to do all that extra work, go away."). Maybe you're > confusing sociology with applied political science and that's why > you're not getting anywhere? :-) Political science isn't a science. It can not predict. It is misnamed. Sociology *can* be a science, since it *can* predict, as long as it's applied statistically. Most sociologists fail to apply it statistically. It's the difference between trying to predict a particles parameters within h_bar/2, and applying gas laws to predict the behaviour of a group of particles which make up a gas. I can predict that a social construct like FreeBSD operate in a certain fashion based on its organizing principles, based on observation of other social constructs with similar organizing principles. In the same way I can predict a rock will fall on Mars by observing that rocks fall here on Earth, even though I can't gather empirical evidence by going to Mars itself, and I know the mass of Mars is less than that of Earth (ie: it is only similar, not identical). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.