From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 20 22:26:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640D8106566C for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA3B8FC18 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id n2KM9Bap032919 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:09:11 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522ED8A29D for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:09:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 1CED415; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:09:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:09:09 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090320220909.GA35848@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.164]); Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:09:11 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9145/Fri Mar 20 15:59:16 2009 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 49C41407.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 49C41407.000/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 49C41407.000 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.024 -> S=0.024 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Cc: Subject: Re: mtools vs X11 (Re: FreeBSD Port: syslinux-3.72) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:26:35 -0000 Steven Kreuzer wrote: > Personally, I think it makes more sense for mtools to be > the full and complete representation > of the actual program. Personnally i think that such opinion considerably harms the ports system, by transforming some ports (fortunately not many) into a kitchen sink of dependencies, which cause considerable trouble for the unhappy users. Adding X, which is a very big dependency for a port like mtools, where nobody in his right mind would think or even know there is a guy, is like adding the whole TeTex for getting the symbol font (i have seen that) or other similar wise decisions. If a little judgement was applied in such cases, it would enhance greatly the usefulness of the ports system. -- Michel TALON