From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 07:54:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082B437B401; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5190C43FA3; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4JErol21476; Mon, 19 May 2003 11:53:50 -0300 Message-ID: <3EC8EFFD.1060702@tcoip.com.br> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:53:49 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030416 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Farkas References: <20030520000655.F93323-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20030520000655.F93323-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man(1) oddity - was: HEADS UP: bzip2(1) compression for manpages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:54:11 -0000 Andy Farkas wrote: > > Arrghh. Why you not believe me when I have proved the user experience is > different between 4.x and 5.x ????? He isn't denying that. He's just claiming these 10 seconds are not a result of the man page being catpaged. Or, in other words, that the "Formatting page, please wait..." message is *not* there because of those 10 seconds wait, but for something else that actually takes no time at all. I do have a question... on these examples, does the cat page exist or not, for each? And what happens in the other case (ie, if the cat page does not exist in these examples, what happens when it does exist)? > > Facts: > > 1. A Normal user on a 4.x box types `man ppp` and is instantly told > "Formatting page, please wait..." and then 10 seconds later is presented > with the man page. > > 2. A Super user on a 4.x box types `man ppp` and is instantly told > "Formatting page, please wait..." and then 10 seconds later is presented > with the man page. > > > 3. A Normal user on a 5.x box types `man ppp` and NOTHING HAPPENS until 10 > seconds later when the man page is presented. > > 4. a Super user on a 5.x box types `man ppp` and is instantly told > "Formatting page, please wait..." and then 10 seconds later is presented > with the man page. > > > Please study hard 1. and 3. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca VIVO Centro Oeste Norte Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today.