From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Mar 8 18:30:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (mail2.rdc3.on.home.com [24.2.9.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E49937B774 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cwass99@home.com) Received: from tristan.net ([24.114.108.234]) by mail2.rdc3.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000309023034.DOMC11289.mail2.rdc3.on.home.com@tristan.net>; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:30:34 -0800 Content-Length: 2009 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <16745.952524186@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:25:42 -0500 (EST) From: Colin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Sysinstall 'A'uto partitioning Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Edward Gold , "Koster, K.J." , Garance A Drosihn Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 08-Mar-2000 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > And as you've seen by subsequent discussion, it's impossible > to derive a "one size fits all" solution for something like /var. > > I would expect this to come out of the "I know where you want it, now > what kind of install will this be?" question which the newbie > installer gets to answer second. If they pick "mail server" from > the menu then /var will get a totally different ratio % assigned > to it. If they pick "personal workstation" then 20MB is, if anything, > perhaps a little high. I might be completely out in left field somewhere, but I don't see that the defaults should be that important. We're discussing what is fundamentally a server oriented system, and realistically we have to assume some minimum level of understanding on the part of the person(s) installing it. From experience I can say that commercial Unix knowledge translates very quickly to FreeBSD, including the basic concepts behind partitioning a disk, so for a (resonably experienced) server administrator there should not really be an issue here. If you owned a company, would you want someone who didn't at least make an effort to research the system requirements prior to install running your mail servers? Even in the M$ world, it's become abundantly clear that setting up any kind of server requires a serious investment in time and effort and learning. Who are we to deprive the newbies of that adventure ;) For those setting it up to experiment/learn, the defaults worked okay for everybody I've helped get started. In those types of situations, a couple of re-installs should probably be expected, anyway, as the newbie inadvertently breaks things ("I was told that find / -exec rm {} ';' would free up lots of disk space by a friend of mine who uses Linux..."). Especially using server software as a desktop OS. I guess I'm saying that the auto partitioning scheme is fine, although arguably not optimum for a desktop. Cheers, Colin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message