From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 20 14:40:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14612 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14233 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:39:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaput@whoever.com) Received: from whoever.com (kaput@dialA3c.aei.ca [206.123.6.80]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04554 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:39:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3512EF36.F0E9B456@whoever.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:35:34 -0500 From: KapuT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Newbies Subject: FUG- FreeBSD User Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry for the bad english, I am from Québec and we talk french here, but I'm open minded and I talk both language. I have some point of view, because its *supposed* to be a chat mailling list ;-) Ok, I have FreeBSD, and its my first Unix like systems. I was using Windows 95, and like a little user, I have several problems. All of that is bullshit and *they* create a new market by publicities. The run for OS is not over: www.be.com is a good example of future. This is a new Operating System, and they run FreeBSD for www.be.com because BeOS cannot right now be used as a server: to much bugs. Ok, now I want explain why we hate Windows, and why FreeBSD is not popular as Linux. We hate Windows 95 because of the price, of the bug, and the support. Microsoft always say "Its the Hardware" and hardware sellers says "its Microsoft". Aargh! Now Linux is popular because of the support and the integration of knowledge and web page about it. And also for the *hackers* reputation... The news papers talk about them. I suggest We should create more powerfull link between the devellopers and the users. We also should do 1 FUG "Freebsd User Groups" by town and we should put the list on www.FreeBSD.org BeOS have seen than that was that than the user want: they publish all there User Groups on there web page! I also suggest than www.FreeBSD.org do a space for us, users... And than they put a bug report page (I have not find any on there page) like on www.openbsd.org I also suggest than we copy all good thing from other OS, all the good user-concept Take the better of all ;-) I have finded than computer user are lost on FreeBSD... I was lost... a friends help me, but it was chance: you do not have always a friends who know about FreeBSD! So I have Created my own FUG for my town. I am not an advanced user, but its a place to start! and FreeBSD should support an irc channel like #freebsd-newbies and that channel should not be for chatting: just for stupid questions like "wath's *ls*" :-) and we should put more example of how to use commands... its funny when you dont understand something how you can simply reboot under windows95 who is *more* simple. Its possible than all I have said already exist, but I have not find anything. All in freebsd should be for user, for newbie user because we need to devellop that market... Not only Linux user who move to freebsd but also Newbie. I think than I will create a page where I will put all FUG who exist, if your interested, mail me please or inform me where I can find them... Not only english rulez the world... sorry for my bad english! KapuT -- *************************** kaput@whoever.com www.aei.ca/~malartre/ ICQ-scrap #4224434 IRCNet #quebec #wage #mid Undernet #FreeBSD Windows95 Unix-Version FreeBSD-2.2.6-CVSup *************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message