From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sun Apr 28 21:46:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAA0158AE97 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.119]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8D057712C for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob14.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob14.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.52]) by atl4mhfb03.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x3SLjwtZ026037 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 17:45:58 -0400 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail02pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.36]) by atl4mhob14.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x3SLjoqs001370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 17:45:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 33563 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 2019 21:45:50 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 99.253.177.25 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@99.253.177.25) by 0 with ESMTPA; 28 Apr 2019 21:45:50 -0000 Subject: Re: bugid reports are not a mail list To: Tom Pusateri Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML References: <13d3dace-aec1-d238-fdca-a0b8447dd01e@blastwave.org> <15535DAC-7167-4277-A0A0-2F0043BDB945@bangj.com> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 17:45:49 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/67.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15535DAC-7167-4277-A0A0-2F0043BDB945@bangj.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C8D057712C X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.56 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.977,0]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[ip: (0.91), ipnet: 209.17.112.0/21(0.26), asn: 19871(0.21), country: US(-0.06)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.57)[0.570,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[119.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.86)[0.858,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:46:00 -0000 On 4/28/19 5:38 PM, Tom Pusateri wrote: > >> On Apr 28, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> >> >> Merely wanted to suggest that bugid reports contain more substantive >> content than open hand waving discussion. I am guilty as charged in >> this respect also. >> >> Also ... follow up to comment left by Tom Pusateri on 235060 : yes >> the powermacs are cheap and everywhere and not much exists elsewhere. >> Unless one wants to spend $10k as a minimum. The situation is worse >> for RISC-V wherein nearly nothing exists other than QEMU and Spike. >> So in that hardware architecture one will need to spend $55M or more >> to get your own 9nm fabrication done. Maybe less. Not much less. > > My apologies. I guess I should take this to the ARM mailing list. > No this is a good place and input is appreciated. I have arm on hand here also and it is a bugger to deal with. Dennis