From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 4 15:30:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23910 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23902 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA13402; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:28:23 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199702042328.QAA13402@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: bisdn To: grog@lemis.de Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:28:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199702041857.TAA15699@freebie.lemis.de> from "Greg Lehey" at Feb 4, 97 07:57:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >>>> Oh really? Do you get D channels? What do you do with them? > >>> > >>> Basic rate: 2B+D > >> > >> OK. Note the second question: what do you do with them? > >> > >>> US West: 2D+B > >> > >> Really? I find that hard to believe. I suppose the question is > >> doubly relevant here: What do you do with them? > > > > Heh. Nothing. We avoid buying them and complain bitterly about > > the lack of ISP Frame Relay support in the area, mostly. > > Speak for yourself. Plenty of people in the USA use ISDN. And while > you're at it, how about admitting (like other people do from time to > time) that you screwed up? Please see the list archives. I've probably admitted to screwing up, when I do it, more than any other poster to these lists. I simply don't have an emotional investment in always being right. You'll also notice that I don't take attacks on instances of my code as attacks on me personally (though style issues, which I believe are irrelevant, and the values of the ideas which the code embodies, are different matters -- I don't care how an idea is implemented, as long as it's The Right Idea being implemented). Now please read my followup refuting the ability to actually *get* ISDN, as opposed to getting a *description* of ISDN from a company that doesn't actually *provide* ISDN. Feel free to contact US West; I live in the 795 prefix, which is not attached to the single 5ESS in Tucson. If you can get me real ISDN, I will be happy to buy it from them. But you can't, because I can't, because they can't. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.