From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 7 19:41:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.249.129.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5417A1516B for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05947; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199904080239.TAA05947@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: J_Shevland@TurnAround.com.au Cc: Nate Williams , Josef Karthauser , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache, Java servlet engine, and Java. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:26:01 +1000." <370C13B9.2E9F89E6@TurnAround.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:39:18 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem with JSP is that it does not have if , then, else, nor loop nor goto the later some may think that is a blessing. Yes, I know what JSP are supposed to do however if you attempt to do any resonable complex html pages the JSP model breaks down quickly which I guess that is were one starts "throwing" things into beans. DOM is nice for an engineering staff where a set of widgets can be coded up to help in the deployment of html or dynamic html. A nice thing about DOM is that is a standard and apparently a nice API . Amancio > Hi, > > Yah, this Cocoon does indeed look cool. > > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > There is very little advantage on using JSP just code it up on java . > > But I disagree a bit there. JSP's seperate the (HTML) page content > nicely from the business logic if you're using beans etc. and avoiding > cluttering the JSP up with needless Java code and tags. > > IMHO, they're easier than using servlets to generate page content; I say > this because of the unwieldy nature of writing HTML from a servlet and > the associated maintenance hassles like just wanting to change the look > of a page requiring a recompilation of the servlet etc. > > I look forward to checking out the Cocoon stuff though. > > Regards, > Joe. > > > See http://java.apache.org Cocoon for the shape of things to come . > > > > Cocoon and friends use DOM , XML and XSL for java servlet frameworks > > Document Object Management (DOM) from http://www.w3c.org is not bad > > at all 8) > > Cheers, > > Amancio > > -- > --------------------------------------------- > ,-._|\ | Joe Shevland > / \ | Principal Consultant > \_,--._/ | Turnaround Solutions Pty. Ltd. > v | http://www.TurnAround.com.au > --------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message