From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Oct 6 16:59:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820ADE3BD00 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2017 16:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-f170.google.com (mail-qt0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4509F66517; Fri, 6 Oct 2017 16:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-f170.google.com with SMTP id q4so32586268qtq.8; Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:59:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ykPquWqivZoQXRbmwlLy9XMeyTJTrETTA5+L3QYm18I=; b=mQaXlWnL4DjYQilUSnt6mA5iIJ6dI5pdeYhbCUnE4tW7PVaR6anWQsZH1VyUNpTdeJ 61wlBQS79LnkwwjlJqY3dOF2OF+eN1tIVOGhS5ZLk+hdp9btwjG0DREmYmndRO20PgA5 TNupNyyvQhkIdLmQuMyXhxWcKk3zPn31GDywLaG7103DsiObMGh077Jw6mYr2yxrtR2c t+1KydPWShQCrzyxZBXh9hPfeb0tpbm7nw9c3/q1dsj/UqGcX7PH15u4/4hqbinpfQ3h h7xDXCe6IFZ7burlerTT1VYfI8pgPUVvtG6AQJAn0kpRX80nbMHLYcMN05S/uLtiXNir LFnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUi+w5ORnmS0sz7J/dcPvGQ32oHFaflQtZte8Rtrk5zueTH1ZtM Gz7eU0hxWIBSCp8fo6qjPoLt2rOr X-Received: by 10.37.47.205 with SMTP id v196mr2038064ybv.325.1507309137794; Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-f42.google.com (mail-it0-f42.google.com. [209.85.214.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s38sm1855166ywa.92.2017.10.06.09.58.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-f42.google.com with SMTP id y15so1885755ita.4; Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDt+7KPdHrsRD6QF1OrTvWoQp1Zvent6hWStjSBjcRprI82o6taLDqiTpgn4ct8k7vM13BJilLpodtGZ0Hu4b0= X-Received: by 10.36.154.66 with SMTP id l63mr3267222ite.118.1507309137161; Fri, 06 Oct 2017 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cem@freebsd.org Received: by 10.2.144.194 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Oct 2017 09:58:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1507306665.86205.257.camel@freebsd.org> References: <1507306665.86205.257.camel@freebsd.org> From: Conrad Meyer Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 09:58:56 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: C++ in jemalloc To: Ian Lepore Cc: Mark Millard , Warner Losh , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 16:59:05 -0000 On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > It isn't about "a broken port". All C++ code is broken if exceptions > don't work. That means devd is broken. Not to mention clang itself. > It may be that neither of those relies on exceptions for routine > operation and uses them only for error handling, and errors mostly > don't happen. There is plenty of C++ code in the world where > exceptions are used in non-fatal-error cases and where the applications > just don't work at all without them. Then use G++ for C++ on those second-tier architectures. We've got a working C++ toolchain. Conrad