From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 00:28:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6160716A4CE for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com (imo-m18.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E473D43D58 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Freebsd0101@aol.com) Received: from Freebsd0101@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.d.3ba0b990 (16781); Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:27:44 -0500 (EST) From: Freebsd0101@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:27:44 EST To: norgaard@locolomo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:28:25 -0000 In a message dated 1/14/05 7:07:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, norgaard@locolomo.org writes: Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: >> Why doesn't someone just answer the question? When Watson finally >> admitted publically that 5.x has networking issues it ended the last >> discussion. Just answer the question. > >Focusing on one cludge is meaningless - who cares if your network is a >little slow, or just slower than 4.x if disk or server apps can't keep >up with it anyway? 4.x, 5.0-2 and DragonFlyBSD all suffer from the GIANT >cludge. PHK has done a lot of work to resolve this cludge, all results >may not be in 5.3. > >> Why are you abandoning support for new hardware in 4.x >> when you admit that 5.x is not ready? It makes no sense at all. > >This is very obvious: There are limited resources: The time of the >developers is precious. Keeping an old system updated costs time and >takes away resources to address the remaining issues with the new version. ----- I'd question your categorization of 4.10 as an "old system". Its the current system that works optimally. Its only "old" because you've purposely antiquated it. If you read Mr Watson's explanation you'd know that its not a "kludge". There are fundamental algorithms in the O/S proper that are being redone. "networking performance" is not a kludge. Its fundamental to usability of the O/S as a server. I understand that resources are scarce, but you are risking losing a significant and important part of your user base for reasons that seem questionable. Linux is light years ahead in SMP and now you're risking your advantage in uniprocessor performance. You're risking disappearing from the map altogether, IMO. Thanks for answering the question.