From owner-cvs-all Mon Mar 12 1:53: 4 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from njord.bart.nl (njord.bart.nl [194.158.170.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A3137B719; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org (root@cable.ninth-circle.org [195.38.232.6]) by njord.bart.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f2C9qjX56398; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:52:48 +0100 (CET) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.chronias.ninth-circle.org (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f2C9jct46519; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:45:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:45:38 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Josef Karthauser , Ian Dowse , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c Message-ID: <20010312104538.B45619@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <20010311223234.D1541@tao.org.uk> <200103112315.AAA79776@info.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200103112315.AAA79776@info.iet.unipi.it>; from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:15:34AM +0100 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20010312 00:30], Luigi Rizzo (luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) wrote: >> It's been in since last October. I guess that noone's using dummynet in >> -current at the moment. > >it is just another example that for some things the "commit to -current >first, wait at least 3 days before MFC" is totally useless and if >we want to have these things tested we need to commit them where >they are used. No, it is not useless. It used to work perfectly. However we are now in a phase, as with 3-STABLE and 4-CURRENT, that we have significant changes in the system which impose a rather heavy burden on the developers to keep both systems working the way it should. For example, we now have the spls are worthless in CURRENT since they're no-ops, which means they might get overlooked easily when doing MFC's. I think someone already made that unfortunate mistake. Furthermore, although I am happy to see the work on SMPng being done, we have had, or at least I, weeks in which I was chasing down bugs in the system itself before I could even start work on the things I wanted to work on. Although I am still a bit reluctant to say it, I am starting to see more and more truth in Matthew Dillon's statement that for anything non-SMPng related 4-STABLE might be a more worthwhile development system at present. And I am sure you all can follow all the lines of thought emerging from these statements in both the pro and con ways. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best D78D D0AD 244D 1D12 C9CA 7152 035C 1138 546A B867 I'm a child of the air, I'm a witch of the wind... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message