From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 24 14:32:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D959A16A418; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CA913C465; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE2C744018; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:32:20 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8CPHDS3ZpuER; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:32:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7631874400C; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:32:19 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <476FC2EC.2060804@icyb.net.ua> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:32:12 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Marcus Clarke References: <476A8A01.3040202@icyb.net.ua> <476A9D99.2050804@icyb.net.ua> <476BAAB0.9030303@icyb.net.ua> <476BC09A.8070300@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <476BC09A.8070300@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kde@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multislot cardreader and hald X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:32:21 -0000 on 21/12/2007 15:33 Joe Marcus Clarke said the following: > Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:59:44 -0600, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> >>> on 20/12/2007 19:03 Jeremy Messenger said the following: >>>> I am no expert on hald, but if I understand it correct. If there is no >>>> probe in hald then hald will never know if you put/keep your da disks in >>>> and pull out. I bet other OSs do the same things. Correct me if I am >>>> wrong. >>> I now see what you are saying and this makes a lot of sense indeed. And >>> I agree that FreeBSD kernel is overly verbose about such a condition - >>> after all it is normal that a device with a ("field") removable media >>> can have no media. I need to check how FreeBSD 7 behaves in this respect >> FreeBSD 7 beahves same. I have 7.0-BETA4 (Dec 13). If I put DVD movie in >> and I will get over 16k lines in message under a minute. >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/messages.txt.bz2 >> >> If I put a blank CD in and I only get less than ten lines in messages. I >> can't wait for someone to fix FreeBSD because that over 16k lines under >> a minute is very annoy. > > Disc media is treated differently than USB media. USB umass devices are > assumed to have media. This is part of the issue with the card reader > (floppy drives behave the same way). Isn't this a bad assumption? -- Andriy Gapon