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Date:      Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:05:19 -0500
From:      Sam Cassiba <sam@cassiba.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).
Message-ID:  <4E6FB77F.3070208@cassiba.com>
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On 09/13/11 14:27, Michal Varga wrote:
> Sigh, okay.
>
> Some time earlier during the day I was still planning to address few
> interesting points (especially) Stephen raised, but by this time I'm
> finally getting to it and reading through the rest of the emails, I can
> see that this would only be a waste of time for everyone involved.
>
> Reading now through the posts one after another stating how FreeBSD
> ports/desktop experience was never more awesomestestest than it is now,
> I just feel like participating in some kind of bizarro 1st April joke,
> and the most coherent reply that comes to mind is:
>
>
> Wat.
>
> And again.
>
> Wat. Did I just read.
>
>
> I have no other words beyond that because I can't even seriously imagine
> what those people stating how everything is perfectly fine now consider
> to be a working, modern, 24/7 ready desktop workstation.
>
> Though if I had to pick a random case again, it probably wouldn't be too
> hard to make some wildly unsubstantiated guesses:
>
>   ## From: Matthias Andree<matthias.andree@gmx.de>
>   ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21)
>
>
> Still I thank everyone for polite replies which were actually a welcome
> change for this kind of threads, but as there is obviously something
> fundamentally different between how I and rest of you guys perceive an
> actually working FreeBSD (or any other, for the matter) workstation, I'm
> going to let it go, this is not the kind fight one would be able to win
> in any case.
>
> For the next years, I'll be much better off with finishing my migration
> to another system where the base OS will hardly ever be as good and
> clean as FreeBSD, but the overall quality of 24/7 ready, stable, modern
> desktop OS as a whole is by far too wide margin different from what I
> gather is currently considered 'acceptable' here, in FreeBSD (ports)
> circles. No offense meant, in any case.
>
> m.
>
>


Aside from things like virtualization, my desktop experience over the 
past 10+ years has been rather positive.  I do everything but play video 
games on FreeBSD, and it works for me as a usable and relatively stable 
workstation.  It took a lot of trial and error on my part, but I found a 
suitable workstation setup for me.

Comparing my desktop experience now to how it was when I started in 
early 4.x, I'd say there has been significant improvement.  FreeBSD is 
not perfect, and some areas need more work than others, but I'd say 
there has been an upward trend in overall quality over the years.

Just my $0.02, take it for what it's worth.

-- 
Sam Cassiba <sam@cassiba.com>



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